steve49
476 posts
Mar 23, 2010
4:03 PM
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i'm evaluating my birds now, but they're still separated by sex. as i decide who goes to the 'a' team, how long or does it matter regarding reintroducing the two sexes back together in the same box? my birds are all 09's which i worked with last year as babies. now some are almost 10 months old, and unless they're separated, there'll be plenty of hanky panky.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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steve49
478 posts
Mar 23, 2010
7:33 PM
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14 hens, 12 cocks. but, i really am not understanding second sentence.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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JMUrbon
1000 posts
Mar 25, 2010
11:07 AM
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If the birds are in GOOD fly condition they really wont be too interested in breeding. Its when they get fat during the winter lockdowns that they get interested in breeding. Between the birds being fly fit and wire floors you should be able to keep the breeding in the kit box to a minimum. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
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fhtfire
2500 posts
Mar 25, 2010
12:00 PM
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I fly my kits with mixed sexes. I have never had a problem flying them together. I did find when I did fly the seperate....back in the day..just to try...I noticed that the cocks flew faster and did some wing clapping...I guess they were showing off.
Like Joe said..if they are in shape they wont lay in the kit box...sinc 03 I have only had 5 eggs in the kit boxes total....as I remember....and that was during the winter months and they were on lock down for an extended period due to fog for like two weeks straight.....This year I have had none...I have noticed some hanky panky....but no eggs...but I do fly quite often so they are in good maintanance shape.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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macsrollers
290 posts
Mar 25, 2010
12:18 PM
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Fly the piss out of your cocks to knock some weight off of them and get them lean. Keep their feed down and then once you have their full attention this will help when you put them with the hens. Like the guys said, some hanky panky will happen but if the birds are in flying condition and not overfed they will be more concerned with eating and flying then screwing around! Enjoy your next fly! Don M. Mac's Rollers
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tucknroll
56 posts
Mar 25, 2010
3:00 PM
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It is to the advantage of the manager of said kit to fly the hens and cocks together but house them seperately! Experience being your teacher will glean the results.Housing to develop chemistry within a kit of birds is highly over rated. If you have a family of birds that are kit oriented than you have the problem nipped in the bud without you even realizing it. What I mean by this the experienced flyer recognizes that irregardless as to what bird you replace within a kit that has been established he or she will react the same and be a team player even if not flown with said kit or housed with said kit. If you want to spice up the kit throw the hens into the pen the cocks are in for 5 minutes or so before you release the kit and experience the results. This is elementary to those veterans who have flown comp kits and know how to get the best from them. Developing a top class A kit of birds makes ones neck very sore over time LOL!
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steve49
480 posts
Mar 25, 2010
5:07 PM
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Tuck, sounds like a lot of work separating the birds after they've flown, but if i run into any problems, i guess i'll have to. hey Paul, did u get my email?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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rtwilliams
GOLD MEMBER
622 posts
Mar 25, 2010
7:52 PM
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by the snap on bands an donly band the Cocks. THeb it shouldn't take bit a few moments to seperate.
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RT Williams
Brink of Rolling Loft
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JMUrbon
1002 posts
Mar 25, 2010
8:07 PM
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I have flown kits that I housed the cocks and hens seperately and I have flow them housed together and honestly I have had the best results housing them together. Just my personal experience though. Joe
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J.M.Urbon Lofts
A Proven Family of Spinners
http://www.freewebs.com/jmurbonlofts/
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2010 8:08 PM
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pigeon pete
527 posts
Mar 26, 2010
7:31 PM
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my flying team are within one shed but in seperate kit boxes. After a few days of going on this system they will mostly go to their right box automaticaly, but the odd one that goes in the wrong box will shift out as I aproach because he (and it's usually a he) knows he will get caught up and removed if he doesn't do it himself.
Flown together they will play around upon landing, but if you lock them up within 15 minutes of feeding you don't get the strong bond, and the subsequent eggs.
This is what I have found anyway. Also, with this limited fraternising I have never had hens pair up.
If that happens you will get not one, but two eggy birds.
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2010 7:32 PM
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fhtfire
2501 posts
Mar 26, 2010
8:27 PM
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Joe,
I have found the same as you...mixed kits in my loft fly better together...I am a firm believer of housed together and fly together build team work.
rock and ROLL
Paul
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jim
258 posts
Mar 26, 2010
9:15 PM
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Hi everybody,
I havent post a message here for a while. I have a hold over kit of 5 years old. I lock my birds up from November to middle March keeping cocks and hens seperate. I started preparing my kit for the Anglo Africa cup now the cocks and hens are toghether I belive fit birds dont pair up but also got wire floors in kit boxes.
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Jim "Mason"
http://www.devilear-roller.co.za
Member of NBRC
2008 World Cup Qualifier
2008 Regional Winner
2008 3rd in South Africa Nationals
2009 Winner South African Nationals
Last Edited by on Mar 26, 2010 9:18 PM
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gabe454
1625 posts
Mar 26, 2010
11:27 PM
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I flown my hen/cock kit for over 1 half had no problems with them flying yeah there some that has been goffing around but when you have them not to fat they tend to forget about the messing around mines been locked down together since last year and theier flying just fine.
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GABE
454 LOFT
L.P.R.C
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