Pinwheel
206 posts
Apr 13, 2010
1:31 PM
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What do you think motivates your rollers to roll/ roll deeper/ more frequent/faster or all the above? Besides the genetic component.
I say...
1. Flying, dont roll unless in the air
2. Some individuals rolls more frequently or deeper when trying to loose altitude to land. Ive noticed, when trying to drop them
3. some hawks(red shoulder, red tail)in proximity to kit.. personal observation
4. other rollers
5. Hunger?
6. Mating?
7. A mate in the air/on ground?
Second part
What motivates you to have rollers?
To watch them perform and to share with other non pigeon people.
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Last Edited by on Apr 13, 2010 1:46 PM
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nicksiders
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4306 posts
Apr 13, 2010
1:50 PM
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I like the way they look; how they feel in the hand; and how they smell - especially the babies. I like to watch them fly and perform. I like to watch them interact around each other. I like to be around people who like them as I do.
Proper diet; other rollers; and proper shelter.
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Nick Siders
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michael salus
196 posts
Apr 13, 2010
1:55 PM
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Nick, Well said from a true pigeon man!!!
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MJ
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Sound Rollers
303 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:18 PM
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I think they just eat, sleep and procreate and the roll is all genetics, its our job or need to improve this little bird through selective breeding and proper maintenance.
MJ, I would say Nick is a true Rollerman.
P.S. One question though; are we trying to take grasp of or improve on a malfunction? Think about this; I have seen a wild Dolphin/Porpoise do a back flip, I'm not comparing the the brain of a Dolphin to a Roller, but its something to think about.
John
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1725 posts
Apr 13, 2010
3:26 PM
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John, Have you witnessed a good bird really rip a long, better then average (for him or her) spin? Then straight back to the kit only to do it all over again! That part is good but the smug look on their face when the kit lands! :) I don't believe it's a malfunction, never have, never will but I'm a dreamer. :)
Thom
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Sound Rollers
304 posts
Apr 13, 2010
4:35 PM
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Yes Thom, a long time ago in the Antelope Valley, California, that bird hit the ground, lol.
John
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155
1198 posts
Apr 13, 2010
4:41 PM
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SOME GOOD REST AND THE WAY YOU FEED THEM
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steve49
500 posts
Apr 13, 2010
5:24 PM
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i agree with Thom. i just can't buy into the idea that rollers are having fits. i mean, if it was fit/epileptic seizure, how do you explain that the bird decides when it rolls? also, why wouldn't this fit take place at any other time? i believe it is an inherited trait, and the birds ability to control it is learned. unfortunately, some birds cannot control their roll, and others go the other way, and just don't have sufficient genes to roll at all. of course all this gets thrown out the window when you have to factor in that the birds must be in the right state or condition to want to roll, or not be able to control themselves. fat, well fed rollers seem more able to hold back the roll, so feeding and management must also be used to get the birds to do the most they can, based on what we want.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Pinwheel
207 posts
Apr 13, 2010
6:03 PM
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so what condition would make an excellent performer stop rolling?? any one witness this.
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1727 posts
Apr 13, 2010
6:45 PM
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Flying them too much. Young birds can fly twice a day, older birds every other day or every third day.
Thom
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Pinwheel
208 posts
Apr 13, 2010
7:10 PM
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Define what is too much. I had a discussion about open lofts, and rollers still rolling in that set up. So at the point of exhaustion? How long does this last for?
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Pogohawk
106 posts
Apr 13, 2010
9:55 PM
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I feel that proper feed and a love of their kit box and team that keep mine motivated. I would say watching them fly and interact in the with each other motivates me to keep flying. There's nothing like our little back yard sport. I also really enjoy sharing the birds with people who have never experienced them before.
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Pinwheel
209 posts
Apr 14, 2010
3:34 PM
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How do you know they love their kitbox. In what context are you talking about. I would agree. Im not sure mine are in complete love with theirs which would make it easier taking them portable.
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Oldfart
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1728 posts
Apr 14, 2010
4:02 PM
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Birds flying into their second year or beyond need rest inbetween fly days. Different families will need more or less time or days. I fly my old birds every thired day and only once that day. Any more then that and mine will start to go stiff.
Young birds just learning can be flown twice a day every day until they start to come into the roll, then I only fly them every other day and only once a day.
Thom
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Pinwheel
210 posts
Apr 14, 2010
5:12 PM
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very interesting. I wonder if that is the same for everyone. With BOP i can see how its hard enough to fly even once a week
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wannaroll
183 posts
Apr 14, 2010
5:20 PM
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Hey Nick, stop sniffing your birds. It could lead to harder drugs. LOL.
I love to stare at my birds. LOL
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
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Pinwheel
211 posts
Apr 14, 2010
7:38 PM
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Yes. I like to watch them too.
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Pogohawk
108 posts
Apr 14, 2010
7:51 PM
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Pinwheel, I feel they enjoy the kit box, they seem to be comforted when inside and enjoy interacting with my hand. When I clean my kit box the birds seem to get excited or if it is clean when they come in from flying. They all have their own little place and I think they understand that its their home.
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Pinwheel
212 posts
Apr 15, 2010
5:10 AM
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How big is your kitbox and how many birds. I have the large airline crates for dogs, and Have 10 per. ITs most definately too crowded comparatively to most of what others have
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Pogohawk
109 posts
Apr 15, 2010
7:51 AM
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Mine is a little crowded at the moment but the BOP are keeping my numbers down. Im only flying 10 birds right now. This is my kit box for now but I'll finally have some time to work on it this coming week. These used to be breeding sections for homers that I fixed up a little bit.
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