budharley
35 posts
Jun 11, 2007
11:25 AM
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steve uk kindly informed me that the man i bought my birds off infected someones loft with pmv how worried should i be also how can i tell in my birds and whats the treatment if they have do they all need to be culed
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Steve_uk
179 posts
Jun 11, 2007
12:43 PM
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Bud i would seek full refund for the birds from Ronnie if he does'nt oblige contact the AERC if you need the details let me no the other fancier who as been effected by him as also contacted the AERC.
He just keeps getting away with it year after year somthing needs to be done take my advice if he doesnt take the birds back i would destroy them all disinfect all your loft and start again i will bet my house on it that he has'nt sold you any quality stock anyway because he doesnt even no what he as.
Steve...
p.s bud dont worry about replacing your birds i no a lot of roller flyers in this country who would be willing to help you out.
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Santandercol
1161 posts
Jun 11, 2007
3:48 PM
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Sorry to hear that Bud.Sounds like you've stumbled into the right place here to get some help if your problem is as bad as it sounds.
W@yne,
Good detailed explanation of the vaccination procedure.
Kelly
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budharley
36 posts
Jun 12, 2007
12:34 AM
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So i guess thats why he told me not to bother joining the aerc then, so i guess im up shit creek then.been breeding these bird to try and get a few babies ready for kit box and ive just wasted all that time ive not had one death in my pigeons and they all seem healthy ive only lost 3 babies but i put this down to them being yung birds but as steve uk said the rollers are probably crap anyway great way to start your first year in rollers then lol
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Santandercol
1163 posts
Jun 12, 2007
6:40 AM
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Hey Bud,
Pick up the pieces and dust off.Start again man,don't give up now.The really big problem is if you have falcons around.Last night I lost 2 to the damn falcons and one came in slashed across the breast.Now that can be really disheartening and make it hard to carry on in this hobby.
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Kelly
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budharley
37 posts
Jun 12, 2007
6:56 AM
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yeah guess so but the problem where will i find good birds for the right price could of really bin doing with buying a young bird kit straight for the kit box
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W@yne
494 posts
Jun 12, 2007
9:08 AM
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Budharley
(Steven) ring me up before 700pm tonight if you can.
W@yne uk
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Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2007 10:24 AM
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1384 posts
Jun 12, 2007
9:11 AM
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Hey Bud, I will donate 2 Ruby Roller young birds for August delivery if you cover box and shipping. Call me or email.
PS I will only do it if you cull those sick birds and carriers. No point in wasting 2 more birds.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2007 9:12 AM
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budharley
38 posts
Jun 12, 2007
10:22 AM
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thanks very much tony, W@yne i will ring you but ive checked my emails and havent recieved your number yet ill check again now
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W@yne
496 posts
Jun 12, 2007
10:27 AM
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Budharley
Ive sent you an email with my number 2 times to make sure lol.
Regards
W@yne uk
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budharley
39 posts
Jun 12, 2007
10:33 AM
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still not got it w@yne budharley2000@yahoo.co.uk lol
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Shaun
491 posts
Jun 12, 2007
10:43 AM
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Er, not wishing to pour cold water on Tony's kind gesture, but doesn't the Atlantic Ocean separate you, with a host of export/import hurdles to overcome?
Shaun
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budharley
40 posts
Jun 12, 2007
11:32 AM
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thanks w@yne for your help and thanks steve for letting me know about ronnie maybe next year ill start up proper with you guys when ive saved up enough money and do it all with proper approved birds for the time being im going to the shed to way up the options on the (ferals}lol
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budharley
41 posts
Jun 12, 2007
11:56 AM
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Hi W@yne whats the best disinfectant for the loft if i was to start again and the other treatment you said also heres some ring No wdrc rh96 wdrc rh 47 wdrc bc 41
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Steve_uk
180 posts
Jun 12, 2007
12:30 PM
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Hey bud wayne told me the situation this is what i would do in your shoes treat all birds with batril anything that looks like its gunna die do it a favour dont let it suffer.
Next disinfect all the loft,drinkers and troughs with virkon s .
The birds you have wont be world beaters but i'm not saying they wont breed you some entertaining rollers for your own pleasure my advice to you is join the AERC and get round as many flys as possible and meet the lads, when they no your serious about the birds they will help without charging the earth for there birds.
Me and wayne are going up to middlesborough at the end of the month watchin the old bird fly the north east is a hot bed of quality rollers at the moment if theres room in the car your welcome to come with us.
Steve...
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budharley
42 posts
Jun 12, 2007
12:44 PM
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thanks for the offer steve im going tenerife for two weeks on saturday what day is the fly also i think i can get virkon from bamfords but i dont know what batril really is or if they will have it also ive heard of ivomec for worms is it worth using the colombovac pmv treatment
Last Edited by on Jun 12, 2007 1:16 PM
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Steve_uk
183 posts
Jun 12, 2007
1:17 PM
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Sounds like a respiratory problem have you checked them for canker? look down there throat for any cheesy looking stuff.
Batril is a very powerful broad spectrum antibiotic which should,nt be over used but in your case i would use it just on knowing were the birds came from.
Dont panic bud ive been in a much worse situation then you dont get disheartend by all this it will pass if you want the batril i can put you in touch with someone who is far cheaper than the vet but it means a drive to oldham.
Steve
This is what they same about canker
Affected pigeons in a loft may cease to feed, become listless and ruffled in appearance, and lose weight before death. Pigeons often have difficulty when closing their mouths because of lesions in the oral cavity. They drool and make repeated swallowing movements. Watery eyes may be apparent in birds with lesions located in the sinuses or tissues around the eyes. Diarrhea, increased water intake, and respiratory distress may be noted. Birds may die suddenly due to suffocation if the lesion blocks the opening of the trachea. The disease becomes more severe in birds that are noticeably emaciated. The thin weakened bird loses the inclination to fly and will "take to the wing" reluctantly.
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Tony Chavarria
Site Publisher
1386 posts
Jun 12, 2007
1:36 PM
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Sorry about that! I did not realize that he was across the water! LOL Never mind.
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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budharley
43 posts
Jun 12, 2007
1:42 PM
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Hi steve did you say the batril will treat canker aswell how much is it ive got 14 birds to treat all help appreciated steve and thanks anyway tony
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J_Star
1032 posts
Jun 12, 2007
1:46 PM
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There are allot of cheaper meds to treat Canker. Why use the most expensive meds for that?
Jay
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budharley
44 posts
Jun 12, 2007
1:48 PM
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hi jstar i dont think my birds just have kanker lol
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CHANTICLEER
5 posts
Jun 12, 2007
3:23 PM
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WELL BUD !
Iam very sorry to hear of this set back to your loft ,
its a dam shame lads pass on birds which they know not to be in full health ...... with the help of the guys on here with their information iam sure it will be only a tempoary set back !!
i have loads of friends who race birds , lately i have approached the secretary of our local racing club , they have to vacinate each year in order to send their birds to race , he is willing to vacinate any rollers for me each year .... for which i will make a donation to their club ....... maybe worth a try for you ?
virikon is an excellent disinfectant , i also use battles black ....... which is very much like the old jeyes fluid ,only 3 times the strength ,
all the best
lee
north / east england
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J_Star
1033 posts
Jun 13, 2007
5:39 AM
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It is not just shame to pass on sick birds, it is unethical. It is as bad as when racing homer guys send sick birds to race and infect all the birds that are participating.
You can also infect your loft by your kindness. How many of you lend breeders to others? Sometimes others, which are possibly your friends don’t have lofts as clean as yours and their lofts are infested with mice and rodents or their feed is contaminated. When you get your breeders back, hell will break loose in your loft. Let us be honest, how many of you quarantine the breeders when you get them back?
Jay
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budharley
46 posts
Jun 13, 2007
10:28 AM
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hi ive looked down all their throaats and everything looks normal so i dont think theyve got canker
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