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Flying Oriental Rollers in Europe
Flying Oriental Rollers in Europe
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Alan Bliven
131 posts
May 06, 2005
8:20 PM
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http://www.advanced-images.net/Orientalroller/newsletters/news2d.htm
Here's a few interesting quotes from the articles:
"We must keep in mind the Oriental Roller is a polyvalent flying breed and is able to fly very high, tumble, roll, dive and make sophisticated combinations of aerial feats."
"In France and Europe we have two ways to fly our pigeons, at home first but also on portable lofts. The flying kits are always of three pigeons, never more."
"All that I mentioned must not hide the fact that we first breed Oriental Rollers for pleasure. This bird has a good self-control and when it is in the mood for playing in. the sky it becomes incomparable.
"What I personally look for when I release my Oriental Rollers is a quick ascent followed by 10 to 20 minutes or more high flying above the loft. When the pigeons are on the way down in successive stages I expect the best from them. Here is the show! And when they're on good form believe me there must be more than one highflying ascent... that's a good sign."
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Alan
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Alan Bliven
132 posts
May 06, 2005
8:21 PM
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I wonder why they only fly three birds to a kit?
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Alan
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nicksiders
107 posts
May 06, 2005
9:28 PM
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Doneks are flown one bird at a time from what I understand. It would be a long day just to fly ten of them wouldn't ya think.
Do orientals kit like rollers? It may be that they don't and the observation of 20 birds would be almost impossible.
Don't know?????????I have never known anybody who raised them in a big way. Most of the people I knew that had them were in the show type bird business and those who flew them only had two, three, four birds.
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Leo
Member
17 posts
May 07, 2005
7:24 AM
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Good Morning, The ORs are historically known as poor kitters,I guess they are more desirable to watch in kits of three, Some yrs ago i met a gentelman..Amet Senol, he was from the old coumtry, he brought the first Doneks to this country,He demonstrated the art of flying them,He flew them in threes,holding a dropper in hand, and brought them down upon wing movement of the dropper,They came down in a spiral very fast,,about 4 stories high I saw a super roller spin,,Another did a Plate roll about 6 in a row very fast then a 5ft roller spin, and on the coop they landed, believe me they were, a sight to behold. These birds seem to have gone sour for some reason,you dont see ,or hear much about them,but good ones are air performers deluxe...LEO
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Alan Bliven
133 posts
May 07, 2005
10:04 AM
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Most Americans fly the Orientals in kits of 12, or at least that's what I heard Dale Husband say. He's been raisng and flying them for more than 50 years. Keep in mind, the Oriental is divided up into two seperate breeds now, much like the Birmingham Roller and the Show Roller. One is the Flying Oriental and one is the Show Oriental. The Flying Oriental is a true performing breed that's listed by the NPA as a rare breed in the U.S.
Here's a few quotes I put together from different sources on the Flying Oriental.
>>The Flying Oriental Roller does more than just spin and kit. They also do a very deep tail ride, a propeller spin, and they are divers that do an open spiral dive, a tight spiral dive and a straight loft dive like a Donek when called to the loft.<<
The following are a few common misconceptions about the Flying Oriental's kitting and rolling abilities. Keep in mind many folks have only flown the Show Oriental or crosses and judge all Orientals by what they have seen from them.
>>“Oriental Rollers don't kit. They are individual performers.” This is the most common falsehood about the breed! I have listened to more than a few fanciers describe how they've seen Oriental Rollers fly all over the sky and never kit. Maybe there is or was a strain of Oriental Roller without kitting ability that I'm not familiar with. Oriental Rollers were kit pigeons back in the late 60's when I first flew them. More recently, I've flown just about every strain available in this country and some from recent imports out of the Middle East and Europe. All fly in kits. Oriental Rollers have a strong instinct to kit. So much so that one weak flier in the kit will bring the entire team down. Oriental Roller kits are loose with the lead pigeon constantly changing. There is a nervous shifting and flitting in the kit and if the team is too large the kit may break up into two or three individual kits but eventually re-group into one team. A kit of Oriental Rollers appear rough and rowdy in the air compared to the orderly, regimented appearance of a kit of Birmingham Rollers. None the less, they do kit and should kit well.
“They only flip over once or twice” or “There is no velocity to their roll” etc. These and other ideas are performance related. There are very few fanciers in this country with substantial experience flying the breed but there are many that know all about how the breed is a mediocre performer. The fact is there are all sorts of styles, depths and velocities in the roll seen in the Oriental Roller. Some of the deepest rollers I've seen have been Oriental Rollers. They can also spin with high velocity though I'd stop short of saying they are as fast as the best Birmingham Rollers. Oriental Rollers generally perform to their full potential when flown in kits of their own kind and the kit performance can be spectacular.<<
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Alan
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