Mount Airy Lofts
28 posts
Jan 24, 2005
2:18 PM
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Hi there all,
It amazes me where all these RARE color factors come from if not cross bred with another breed that already had the genetic makeup. Genetic experts feel free to jump in! (remember we are not talking about white flights, Badges, yellows/dillutes here)
From what I have read and heard, a performance Line of Indigos were created by a Roger Baker some years ago. To my knowledge, Mr. Baker had some quality birds he had been working with for some times before seeing a bird he just had to have. This bird was the most shiniest black roller Mr. Baker had ever seen. I don't recall if this shiny black roller was ever air tested or just bred for it's color (not able to even flip over) but that is besides the fact to this story. If I recall the story, Mr. Baker saw this shiny black at a fellow he knew's loft... altho it's just a guess as I don't really recall the story of the fellowship between them. Anywho, Mr. Baker aquired this shiny black roller and bred from it with another black roller from his stock. The birds bred out of this pair were oddly type colored blacks. Now known as Indigos. From Indigos, the Andulusions came, as we all know Indigos and Andulusions go hand in hand. If I recall correct from what I read, this is the pair behind Mr. Baker's Andulusion Line. Maybe Mr. Baker's son can shed some light into this as this is all I can recall. Mr. Baker was a talented roller flier and bred these birds to perform correctly. If I recall correct, James Turner's Andulusion line were from birds aquired from Mr. Bakers. To my knowledge, the best performing Indio/Andulusion Line can be found from Mr. Bakers stock.
The moral of the story is after breeding and inbreeding a certain family without any strange color popping up. It only took one if not two matings to produce these Indigos. I suspect they came from this shiny black pigeon, what do you think?
Are there similar stories behind your RARE color birds?
Ask yourself this. If your roller family had never produced a Opal (for that matter any RARE Color factor) for as long as you have been Line breeding and Inbreeding for generations and start to after bring in a bird here and there. What could be the cause of this new (I'll call) mutanent gene? That's what inquiring minds what to know? Well atleast I would like to know.
Here is a similar story I know of. There is a fellow here who raises the same family of birds as I. He aquired a Stan Plona band bird and first generations of Plona bred birds and worked from there. After awhile, he thought he'd bring some new Plona blood in to see how they worked with the stuff he had. He finally found a bird worth breeding out of that is suppose to be off the same line he had. Long and behold, after just breeding one round of this bird with one of his stock... he bred a yellow (don't recall what the nest mate was.. think it was a blue check). Now his line and my line has been inbreeding and linebreeding for 30 plus years without one yellow popping up but after just breeding one round out of this so call pure stuff... a yellow pops out. Long story short, that new bird and it's round was elimated. Never again has a yellow pop up after that. Don't get me wrong, there nothing wrong with the color yellow (it's not consider a RARE factor for the birmingham roller)... it's just that if the bird was suppose to be from the same blood, it should not be able to produce this yellow stuff. There is no way... I mean no way that after inbreeding and line breeding for generations that it just happened to pop up, incidently occuring after a new bird came into play.
Just something to think about,
Thor
P.S. If you get your birds from Pigeon swaps from all sorts of different fanciers then you don't even have to think about where your RARE color came from and have no need to try to trace it to a source.
Last Edited by Mount Airy Lofts on Jan 24, 2005 2:24 PM
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