RodB
24 posts
Jan 16, 2005
3:01 AM
|
Hello
I have just started flying my first kit and everything is going great , my second kit are just babys and will not fly for a few weeks yet , my third kit is in the nest and my 4th kit is in eggs , now here is my problem .
My kit boxes are in a garage and all in a row with a curtain in front of each box , the boxes are identical in every way , the theory is, being in one room I can mix and match a bird to and from any box with ease as the view of a open curtained kit box is the same to the bird no matter what box it is , doesnt seem to be a problem with getting them into any box with feed things seem to be working good but the feeding is going to be a problem .
Being in the same room how will the birds react to the feed rattle when its not them being feed, will this upset thier training , like the birds that fly in the afternoon will hear all the commotion when the morning flyers are being fed .
Can you experienced guys tell me your thoughts on whether all this feed rattling for other kits will upset anything , I was thinking that they might cotton on that they only get fed when thier curtain is open and the rattle, if its closed they dont get fed .
Maybe I think to much :)
Thanks Rod
|
RolyPoly
30 posts
Jan 16, 2005
6:41 AM
|
Could you use a whistle for one kit, a bell for another, and so on? Just a thought. Phil and Debbie
|
fhtfire
87 posts
Jan 16, 2005
12:00 PM
|
Hey,
I have three kit boxes right next to each other and they too look the same. I blow a whistle for all my kits. It has not affected the training at all. When one kit comes down I blow the whistle and feed them. Then I open the door on the next kit. There is no problem at all....they fly the 30 to 45 min...then I blow the whistle for them. It is all in the training and being consistent. I think the will to fly is the key...the birds are in a little box...and all they want to do is get out and fly. You should not have a problem at all. Even moving birds from one kit to another is fine...they just go through whatever trap is open...they want the food and they will usually follow the other birds in. You should be fine.
rock and ROLL
Paul Fullerton
|
Steve S.
36 posts
Jan 16, 2005
2:08 PM
|
Rod,
Here is a method I use and it works very well.
I have 6 kit boxes on the side of my loft and I use different ages in the last 3 of which the 6th is the weaning box with attached cage.
The first 3 are for A team...B team and one for the up and coming.
If the trap and door on any one is open the birds will trap in either.
When they are all above 6 months I use all 6 to trap them in.
I only let 20 or so in each box as they come down when I gang fly them as I think is the best tool to get them doing the big breaks and kitting good.
OK:
I cut a triangle out of a 1 1/2 foot piece of plywood.
One for each kit box.
On one side I paint it with florecent orange.
When feeding the birds even down to the weaned ones I hang it on the inside of the kit box with the orange outward.
When not feeding it is turned over to the plain side.
When I have the kit or kits out I bring it out and put it orange side up on the kit box roof when I want them to come down and trap as they know its chow time.
This way no need of shaking a can or whistleing.
In competetion noises of the onlookers or etc. can cause you a DQ
Works well for me.
Later
Steve
|
RodB
25 posts
Jan 16, 2005
2:22 PM
|
Hey guys thanks for the posts , very helpfull :)
Steve that sounds like a good system with the painted triangle , I thought of a similar thing when I was building my kit boxes having a visual aid of some sort that they can see from the air when its time to come in .
Its great how inovative a lot of you guys are trying different methods .
Steve when you say gang fly , do you mean let more than one kit up at once , could you elaborate ?
Thanks Rod
Last Edited by RodB on Jan 16, 2005 2:26 PM
|
Steve S.
39 posts
Jan 16, 2005
5:24 PM
|
Rod,
Yes thats what I mean.
I have various reasons to gang fly.
Sometimes I have a kit that is not as old as the others and I want them to pick up or slow down the pace.
I gang fly them.
Some kits get in better condition and get stronger than others.
Most of the time it corrects the pace.
When I don't have time to fly them all I use the gang fly method.
Use this to your own advantage.
Steve
|
Bill
10 posts
Jan 16, 2005
5:51 PM
|
Hi Rob, It sounds like you have everything under control.Advice is always a good second oppinion though. I have several kit boxes and when I start training another kit I shake the feed can and even though the other birds know someone else is getting fed, they will still go out and fly the time. They are a flying breed and will always want to fly ( unless a hawk is near by or over fed ) They are very habitual and when you open the door they will ( should always fly out and take to the sky ). I just leave the bob trap open only to the box I want them to trap in and that works with six kit boxes close together. I have found that training alot of birds at one time say 30+ that sometimes they did not want to fly high and wanted to land right away but I flagged them up and off they would go. Flying 25 or less birds works better for me, but its in their blood to fly and you will do fine to train another kit with out confusing them I will bet. Good luck Bill
|
