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starting a family with only one pair of birds
starting a family with only one pair of birds
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rollerman132
1 post
Jan 01, 2005
8:36 PM
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If you were given a pair of rollers from a good blood line,how would you start a family with just this one pair?
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highroller
71 posts
Jan 02, 2005
9:54 AM
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Do you have pairs of foster parents avaialble? A good way to start your family would be to raise as many babies as possible from that good pair through the use of foster parent pairs. Pump several rounds of eggs from the good pair by putting them under foster pairs that you have set up to lay about the same time as your foundation pair. Then let the foundation pair lay again in a few weeks and foster those eggs out. You can get a lot more babies from that foundation pair in a season by using this method. Fly out these babies and choose the very best young hen to mate back to her father and the very best young cock to mate back to his mother. By the performance of these second generation young you may see that the father X daughter mating produces better performers than the mother X son mating, or visa versa. Work with whichever side of the family has the best performance through line breeding (father X daughter, grandfather X grandaughter etc.) and inbreeding (brother X sister). Just be prepared to use only the best and cull anything that shows undesirable traits because through this line breeding and inbreeding all the common family traits, good and bad, will be magnified. It will take some years to develope a family from just one pair but if it's a great pair it will be worth the time and effort. Most importantly...have FUN.
Dan
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Mongrel lofts
38 posts
Jan 02, 2005
12:55 PM
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Hey R132,
If you plan to make a family, the only way you can do it with one pair, is to breed as many as you can to select from the first year. Then select the best young cock & hen from these too put back on each parent. Breed as many of these as you can get from each 3/4 mating. Select the best from this mating, and go back to each parent again 7/8.. If the pairs hit and you have many good ones from them. Pick a couple brother sister matings.. Start mating the best of the 3/4's & 7/8's of each parent, to each other .
with each generation you will widen your prospects for pairings. Keep direct line inbreeding back to the best, while crossing the young from these direct line inbreedings on each other..
This is how I would go about it, if I could only start with one pair.
To be honest, as one who has done a lot of inbreeding and line breeding.. It would be as likely as hitting the lottery, to get one pair from a man, and them be genetically sound enough, to stud a family that you can inbreed your life time with and fly quality rollers... Only the very best individuals have a genetic package that is not polluted with to much garbage to with stand intense inbreeding.
Finding those few birds, can be like finding the end of a rainbow! So many rollers today have been bred to over cooked and unstable..Lack of control of the roll, Controlled by the roll, lacking brains, Coming hot and early, hitting the ground at 3 months old, and high percentage of roll downs Expected and excepted..
Not to mention all the crossed up and Mongrelized for color, factors and patterns rollers that are out there today, passed off as Birmingham rollers..
I guess you can see the point? These along with so many other problems in the gene pool, would make starting with just one pair of birds, a real challenge.. Mongrel Lofts
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Alan Bliven
51 posts
Jan 02, 2005
5:11 PM
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I had almost the same question a while back and I decided to buy a kit of sqeekers from an honest person who is highly recommended and I'm going to fly the birds and then pick only a couple of pairs from the kit for my foundation breeding stock. That would give me a better chance at starting out right with a good foundation. If I just used a pair or two from a good bloodline I would most likely
waste many years of hard work and just have to dump all the birds I bred and start over again.
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Alan
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rollerman132
2 posts
Jan 02, 2005
11:30 PM
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Thanks for all the info, ill keep you guys updated on what happens.
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