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RodB
16 posts
Dec 18, 2004
2:42 PM
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Hello guys
How many kits do you guys work with at one time .
Whats the competitive lifespan of a good kit.
Are birds better or worse performers after a breeding season .
In your opinion can you compete at top level from a hot climate location .
Thanks Rod
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
351 posts
Dec 18, 2004
10:02 PM
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Hey Rod.
How many kits do you guys work with at one time?
I assume you mean how many different kits does a person have they are flying..correct? The most I will have is seven kits simply because that is how many kit boxes I have. The fewest number will be two or three kits. An A team, B team and late hatch team.
Whats the competitive lifespan of a good kit?
It will always be varying. Depends on the family you have. Some families are only good for six months, other for years. Really depends on the family, your environment, predators, theives, and luck.
Are birds better or worse performers after a breeding season?
I have never flown any of my breeders after breeding them so I would have no personal idea. But some have done it with great success.
In your opinion can you compete at top level from a hot climate location?
Depends on the heat. Humid...yah, kind of rough. Dry..not so bad. It isn't hot all year so there is some good flying weather to be had. I guess it depends on where you are at geographically.
Brian.
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Mongrel lofts
33 posts
Dec 18, 2004
10:18 PM
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Rod,
I keep one old team, and a back up of mixed ages.. I breed between 60 and 100 young a year, depending on the room in my four kits for young birds...I start to cull pretty hard, come breeding season..
As for how long does a good comp kit last? For as many years as they continue to roll hard and regular.. My comp team this year, had 5 birds in it, I bred from last year, that were 3 and four years old.. I think breeding and reflying birds, to make sure they continue to be good regular rollers for many years, is one of the short comings of roller breeders today.. The hawks have made it a must to breed them to come early and hot. Then they keep many from flying old birds, for fear of loss..So the first year is focused on so much, I think many of the one year wonders, maybe bright lights, that burn out early!! The thing is, the breed seams to be moving into this dixie cup frenzy. Breed lots of heat, rollem young, and replace em early with a new batch next year.. We don't think much about the future of the breed anymore, its give me mine, and give it to me now!! Just like every thing else today..
Hey, I better quit rambling now,KGB
Last Edited by Mongrel lofts on Dec 18, 2004 10:49 PM
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RodB
17 posts
Dec 19, 2004
2:09 PM
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Thanks Brian and KGB , good usefull information , yeh Brian its humid here in Northern Australia , its summer right now and a bitch , its 6am and its 80F right now and 80% humidity will be a hot one today , our winter is mild betwween 50 and 60 and is from july to August ( world cup time ) I know it will be harder to compete from here but heh that just adds to the challenge and I will give it a real good go and do my best :)
I have made 6 kit boxes , they are all in one bay of my brick garage which is the coolest place I have , they are identical with curtains so I can close them and only open up the one Im flying , It should make it easy to swap birds from one box to another , very much like Heine Bijker set up which inspired me to build my set up this way .
Yes KGB , performance dog breeding went the same dixie cup way that you speak , they want them hot young , where most of the best familys in dogs could be the opposite doing thier best when they are they were mature .
So many things are the same with dogs yet so many are way different , its been great learning the differences .
Rod
Last Edited by RodB on Dec 19, 2004 2:10 PM
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Mother lode lofts
330 posts
Dec 19, 2004
2:50 PM
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Rod generally at the end of breeding season I end up with 4 kits of 24, plus my A team. Breeding season is moving in pretty quick and I need to open up a box, so I will cull down to that which will be determined by age,cocky cocks not doing anything and weak birds, this will continue on through Spring. Plus at the same time right now I'm looking to put a team together of the y/bs birds showing good potential. I find that I can handle 5 kits and no more. One year I had six which pushed it over the edge, I did it and got them flown out but it was to much work. My best will stay in the team many years. Got a couple of 6-7 yr olds in there now,most are 2-4 yr olds.
Scott
Last Edited by Mother lode lofts on Dec 19, 2004 2:53 PM
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Keith
8 posts
Dec 20, 2004
8:12 AM
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Rod,
I purposely only built 4 kit boxes. There will be times that I want more, but in reality I do not have time to fly any more. One A-bird box three Young bird boxes. I will keep a hold over "B" team until I need the space for young birds. Any birds that have not proven themselves by that time are culls.
Keith
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