George Ruiz
18 posts
Oct 25, 2004
1:02 PM
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A friend asked me today what two colors to mate together to make Lavenders?
I told him I dont know .
Does anyone know so I can tell him
Thanks George
Last Edited by George Ruiz on Oct 25, 2004 1:09 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
293 posts
Oct 25, 2004
2:24 PM
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Hey George, I assume you mean the commonly used flying roller term "lavender" which is actually genetically incorrect. What I think your friend is referring too is the result of mating a red bar to a black self. Basically the soft bluish hue of a clean "lavender" roller is spread ash red bar. Spread ash red checks tend to show red lacing. A clean red bar to a black is definitely the best method if he has none. Just for clarification, true lavender from the genetic standpoint is Milky Spread Blue. Both Milky Spread Blue and Spread Ash Red Bar (void of color intensifiers) result in a very similar soft bluish or silver expression.
Brian.
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Leo
29 posts
Oct 30, 2004
8:17 AM
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George, There is a true LAVENDER the last ones were brought to this country in 1966 ...Bill Pensom brought them here. To breed for them would be a tiresome task, The combination of colors mentioned will only give you silvers....you cannot breed red or black into lavenders. If your friend were close to me i would gladly set him up with LAVENDERS...they are gorgous pigeons, not only that they are very consistant in producing exceptional spinners.TAKE CARE.....LEO
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
309 posts
Oct 30, 2004
11:12 AM
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Leo, do you have any clue what real LAVENDAR and backyard roller talk Lavender are? Are you saying that old Willy brought over Milky Spread Blue rollers or are you saying he brought over Spread Ash Red Bar rollers? Please clarify. They both have the same name but one is a roller term and one is a genetic term.
Brian.
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George Ruiz
19 posts
Oct 30, 2004
4:39 PM
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Leo If its not to much trouble can you give me your email so I can ask you a question
Thanks George Ruiz
g1ruiz@sbcglobal.net
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Birdman
14 posts
Oct 30, 2004
5:14 PM
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George, I would'nt hold my breath waiting for Leo to give out his E-Mail. He's too busy playing his 'cat and mouse' game with Scott and Brian. I sincerely asked him to E-Mail me about the info on the roller study back in the 60's or give me a website so I could read about the study (so did Steve, Red, and a couple others), but to this day, no reply. Leo, if you are reading this I WANT TO READ ABOUT THE ROLLER STUDY!
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Phantom1
21 posts
Nov 04, 2004
2:43 PM
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A good comparison for what Brian is referring to would be the following. The "Silver" in Lahores is actually the Spread Milky on Blue OR Milky Black. The Lavender color in a roller, as it's commonly referred to, is Spread (Black) crossed over an Ash Red-Bar, Check, T-Pattern, etc. If the Black is pure for spread, it should avoid the "ticking" or "lacing" effect in the offspring. But there's a good comparison for you to consider and if you ever need a starting point to see the differences in the genetic make up.
Take care,
Eric
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redneckhippie15
60 posts
Nov 04, 2004
4:11 PM
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What color is this bird? I have had several replies but all are different. I called it opal but I really don`t know.
http://client.webshots.com/photo/207636237/207637866nHuEHb
thanks guys
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Never watch you birds with you mouth open!
redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
Last Edited by redneckhippie15 on Nov 05, 2004 4:53 AM
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