Bill
2 posts
Oct 21, 2004
9:04 PM
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I have a few kits and the last kit of young birds at 3 months flying still fly in cirles. I asked a few local guys what to do and I was told to take out the big cocks, watch for the lead birds and watch the bird coming from the left who cuts accross to the right and turns them in circles. Anything else you can add? I am watching them and it seems they are all turning together. I have flown them with other kits and they all go in circles so I was thinking of putting one at a time in another kit that does the 8 fly pattern. I have never had this problem before. Some of the younger birds are starting to roll and I would like to move them out as they roll. Will this kit be ruined if they continue this way? Thanks for helping. Bill
Last Edited by Bill on Oct 21, 2004 9:05 PM
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spintight
33 posts
Oct 21, 2004
9:29 PM
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well you got descent advice I would say. The easiest way is to just split the kit in half and fly each kit separately and see what they do. It's easier to identify the problem birds in a smaller group sometimes and if you are lucky you will get the problem birds by splitting them.
should your kit start to fly half normal and develop some figure 8 flying the split worked and then the next process would be to add about 2 at a time back until you start to see the weird flying pattern again. It is possible that ALL the birds have developed a bad habit of flying this way but most of the time you can break them of it.
All you can do is experiment but the sooner you get a handle on it the easier it will be to fix them NOW.
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dmitch
5 posts
Oct 21, 2004
9:36 PM
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Bill Remove six oldder birds from one kit and replace with six young birds fly them for a week or two .Do the same in the other kit.Put the other eight young birds with the twelve oldder birds.After a week or two put all the young birds back in one kit and see what happen if no change you may have to cull. Dmitch
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Birdman
10 posts
Oct 21, 2004
9:49 PM
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Bill, I had that happen before with a group of birds that I was only able to fly in the late afternoon when I got home from work. I think the problem was the afternoon winds were too strong and the birds never learned how to fly in a figure 8 pattern, and constantly flew in circles to combat the wind. Now I only train the young birds in the mornings when it's calm and they almost always develop a good flying pattern except for a strong cock or two that cut across the kit now and then, but that problem is easily fixed. After they get older I can fly them in the afternoon with no problem and they still fly in a good figure 8 (most of the time anyway).
Russ
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
289 posts
Oct 21, 2004
10:14 PM
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I have had that problem before and usually it ends up fixing itself with maturity. This year I had one young team that did that for the first 10-15 minutes of flying, but once the excitement and energy wore off they started flying a more normal pattern. My youngest and last team only on the wing for a few weeks did that the other day. Bad part was they just kept on doing it as they traveled south and were gone out of sight. Five hours later they were heading home, in a straight line, obviously having gotten that circling business out of their system. Sometimes if you box up the kit then release them one at a time, say one every 30 seconds or so, this will change their pattern as they aren't able to get sucked into the group circling mentality.
Brian.
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JUrbon
17 posts
Oct 22, 2004
6:22 PM
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You know Bill all of the responses that you recieved on this subject were good advice and I think that the only thing I could add to this would be to Brians post to box them up but instead take them a couple hundred yards down the road and release them a couple at a time. this will get them looking for home and like Brian said not allow them to get sucked into the circle pattern. Joe Urbon
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George R,
8 posts
Oct 22, 2004
6:28 PM
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Bill I had the same problem with a young
kit early in the year I posted the problem and Scott C.
answered saying not to worry about the flight pattern at such a young age ,so I fed them up and kept on flying them and I dont have a problem with that kit any more
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