redneckhippie15
15 posts
Oct 02, 2004
1:47 PM
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I have bird that dives a bit to get some speed then pulls up and rolls before she reaches the apex.She actually gains altitude as she rolls. She gets off 5-6 spins.
kinda cool I thought.
I recently got 5 more birds,and had them locked down for ten days. they`ve been up a week,doin ok,but she is one of the older birds that was already rolling. I was wondering if this was a common thing or what?
thanks
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redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
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J_Star
27 posts
Oct 03, 2004
7:16 PM
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Red,
From young birds, expect the unexpected. Until they get the hang of locking their wings up for spinning, many young rollers have their own way of doing things. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Thor
34 posts
Oct 05, 2004
9:45 AM
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I recall hearing that the trend of the England breeders are going towards the birds that don't lose any altitude when ripping a spin. Don't know if that trend lasted or not tho. Some of these birds holding their spin without losing altitude for as long as 4 seconds. Remember a 4 seconds roller can be in the 60 foot range. I have only seen one of my birds roll without losing any altitude... it would do 1 to 2 second spins without dropping down to earth. Altho I don't like this type of performance, I can see why some might (as they say, the beauty is in the eye of the beholder). The one I had would actually propel itself upward with the first inital thrus before executing it's tuck.
Of course if you are only talking about birds that do quick flips, then that's a whole different story and has no comparison to what I am talking aobut. Remember a true roll has to go beyond 10 feet or atleast 1 second duration.
These birds can do amazing things in the air! Some doing super sonic spins that will blur out (become a fuzzy spec). These are the birds we are all striving for.
Good luck with the birds,
Thor
Last Edited by Thor on Oct 05, 2004 9:46 AM
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redneckhippie15
20 posts
Oct 05, 2004
11:26 AM
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So it doesn`t matter if it is a rise or drop as long as it is ten feet or one second? she is gettin some good velocity when she does it,rises 7-8 feet. Mebbe she is just showing off!! lol
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redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
Last Edited by redneckhippie15 on Oct 05, 2004 11:28 AM
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highroller
43 posts
Oct 05, 2004
4:22 PM
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My birds have done the upward roll as well but only into the wind on breezy days. They seemed to like playing in the wind. Never saw it on a calm day.
Dan
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Thor
35 posts
Oct 05, 2004
4:54 PM
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Hi red..,
Some guys count seconds instead of estimating the feet of desent. For example, a 1 second roller would be equalivent to a 15 footer.
Now about a roller that doesn't lose any attitude, that's just a matter of prefference. As I stated, I don't like this performance myself.
There are also 'Plate' rollers, 'Twizzler' rollers, and rollers that actually can execute frontal flipping type rolling. I know of guys who would dream to have a whole loft full of 'Twizzlers'. I don't care for any of the above myself but that's just me. In the book 'The Birmingham Roller Pigeon' by W. H. Pensom, Pensom stated that a whole kit of 'Twizzlers' will be a lot of pleasure to watch.
As many others and I have stated, you breed for what you like. This is why so many same familys will carry such different traits to them. We as a breeder shape our birds to what suits us. That means if you like this non-desending performance, go for it and pretty soon, all your family will be of such.
Good luck in your endeavors,
Thor
Last Edited by Thor on Oct 05, 2004 4:54 PM
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redneckhippie15
21 posts
Oct 06, 2004
4:07 AM
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Thanks All,
I have no intention of entering this into my "breeding program". As a newbie I was just wondering if this was a negative trait which might require my attention. I am overjoyed that the bird is actually performing.
many thanks
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redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
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Mother lode lofts
221 posts
Oct 06, 2004
10:43 AM
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Red generally these birds shoot out just in front of the kit and up a little then roll, as young birds I'll tolerate it. but I'll never put one of these in a team of good birds, generally these birds are wing clappers also and that I just can't stand. thinking on it, it seems that many that do it as youngbirds tend to do it often as they mature also. but if you are just flying for your own enjoyment I would'nt worry about it though.
Scott
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redneckhippie15
22 posts
Oct 06, 2004
11:02 AM
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Highroller, I live in Amarillo Texas.The Second Windiest City in the USA. So it may be wind issue as you stated.
They do like to use the wind to their advantage I have noticed that,
Kinda like it but I would`nt breed bird.They have been off for a few days because of the weather. It`ll be a new game today when I let `em out.
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redneckhippie*blue dot lofts*
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