wgg
1 post
Sep 15, 2004
3:01 PM
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Fellow flyers,
I would like to get some feedback as to how often you fly your birds. Young kit and Old kit. I fly my birds maybe 5-6 times a week. In the evenings during the week and in the mornings on the weekends. My kits are all young. Less than 6 months old. How much is too much and how much is not enough. Would you think that the more you fly, the better the birds become accustomed to flying as a team? Also confidence/relaxed in performance? On the flip side, would they become too strong to want to perform?? I'm sure that it gets back to the family of birds too. Early developers vs. late developers. You're opinions are appreciated.
Thanks,
Grant
Last Edited by wgg on Sep 15, 2004 3:02 PM
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fhtfire
54 posts
Sep 15, 2004
3:18 PM
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I fly my young birds every day for 5 days...then rest one and start all over again. When they start coming into the roll. I rest them one more day a week. When they really start rolling...I rest them 1 then fly 2. The real young birds...up to about 4 months..I have flown morning and evening(when it is cooler) and have had pretty good results. If it is too hot I will not fly in the evening too. I really pay attention to the birds. If they start cooling off and not showing as much action. I quit flying in the evenings.
If they still show little action I will rest them a day and they come out recharged. I have no birds over 7 months old in my kits right now...so I am sure Kevin, Brian, Scott or many of the others that have been in the business for a while can answer the question with an old bird kit. I just pay attention to the kit...they pretty much let me know when they need the rest.
Paul
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AD3
30 posts
Sep 15, 2004
3:30 PM
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Hello Grant. In order to get OPTIMUM results, I think too much is more than three times a day. Too little is less than three times per week. This also depends on the age of the bids in the kit. Younger birds, you would fly more and a mature ACTIVE kit would be flown less.
Most of the time (unless weather, preditors are bad) I fly my kit twice a day: young or old. They get used to it Grant. I used to lift weights a lot before. I usually did it once a day. For faster results I started doing it twice a day (a bit silly). I hated it and would get very tired BUT soon got used to it. Of course, muscle development and roller development are two seperate things but I hope you get the picture. They really get used to a routine. Fly them once or twice a day but the MOST important thing to remember is to BE CONSISTENT! Hope this helps.
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Steve S.
2 posts
Sep 15, 2004
4:07 PM
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Hi Grant,
Paul has a good regimine for the youngsters.
I fly the young once or twice a day till they come into the roll and then every other day.
If the young get to strong on the wing and we keep the same feed amounts they will sky out.
The old bird kits don't need to fly as often, just a couple times a week.
We got to remember also that we can fly the roll out of a kit of birds.
They will get less frequent with more flying after they have come into the roll.
My take on the subject.
Later
Steve
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
236 posts
Sep 15, 2004
4:36 PM
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Hey Grant, hope to see you around in a few weeks. Paul's answer is a good broad look at what is common for most folks. The only thing I don't subscribe to is flying them twice a day for my own reasons. Been down that road with a strong family and it only compounds the problem in my opinion. Weaker families need to be flown almost every day while stronger family youngsters, again in my opinion, do not need to be flown more than once a day. I keep an eye on the young teams and if during a particular fly they appear strong and fly more than 45 minutes, they don't fly for a day or two after that. Young birds get sucked into routines quickly, some good, some bad. I know your situation is different as we have talked before about it, but I also won't fly my young birds if there is any wind. I know you can't avoid this, but I am compelled to mention it anyways.
As for old birds, 3 times a week seems about perfect. Even flying them every other day can turn them strong and stiff, or like others have said, fly the roll out of them.
Brian.
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highrollers
12 posts
Sep 15, 2004
5:06 PM
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It all depends on what time I get home from work. I try to fly them everyday of the week three hours before sunset on weekdays on weekends before noon. I try not to fly them on hot days. My birds are fairly young they fly well together it took some work!
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redneckhippie15
4 posts
Sep 15, 2004
6:50 PM
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Hi Grant.
I only have 11 birds but I fly six of them then every day. They are young birds,first molt. I received 5 more today.they are nest mates to the first six I started with.
My birds kitted right off the bat. I had a few to roll soon into their first flight I`ve been flying them every day unless it is too windy. Lately they have been acting up and slow trapping or responding to the kit whistle. So I`m going to keep them in with the new birds for some remedial training in trapping and moving to the launch pad.
Anyway, Fly them whenever you think but watch their behavior. More darkness makes em hot more flying makes em stiff and gives the young ones time to develop bad habits.
whole key is to watch very closely and make constant adjustments to light and feed.
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Last Edited by redneckhippie15 on Sep 15, 2004 6:51 PM
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wgg
2 posts
Sep 16, 2004
9:25 AM
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Thanks to everyone for sharing their methods and giving advice. I had a few ideas in my head just from observing the birds and studying them. A lot is common sense. All were good posts and reassured some of my thoughts. Thanks to all.
Grant
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