Pogohawk
1 post
Feb 27, 2010
6:57 AM
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Hello all. My name is Ty Nottingham. I am a 22 year old fancier from Fort Collins Co. I have been breeding various breeds of pigeons since I was 14. But have always been facinated with the performing breeds. I have had my birmingham roller for about a month in half and must say, I've become a little obsessed. I have been reading many of the posts on the forum and have really enjoyed gleaning what can, but decided is was finally time to become a member. I only currently have 12 kit birds and two breeding pairs. We would be doing a little better but have recently had BOP issues so the kit birds wont be back out of the loft for a while.
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
4168 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:02 AM
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Welcome
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"Left leaning communist pinko @#%* and Masturbator"
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Nick Siders
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
1659 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:05 AM
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Welcome, Ty! Don't hesitate to ask or contribute to any question. :)
Thom
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lew3015
92 posts
Feb 27, 2010
7:47 AM
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Welcome Ty hope you enjoy the site.
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Lew
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Jerry Allen
GOLD MEMBER
409 posts
Feb 27, 2010
8:28 AM
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Welcome Ty,
roll up your pant legs, have a seat
and stay a while. There is a lot of knowledge
on this site.
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wannaroll
140 posts
Feb 27, 2010
8:44 AM
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Welcome Ty. I wished I had dicovered rollers at a young age like you. I'm jealous.
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3558 posts
Feb 27, 2010
9:35 AM
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welcome Ty.
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Ty Coleman
859 posts
Feb 27, 2010
4:58 PM
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Welcome Ty !
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3562 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:02 PM
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Oh Oh not again another Ty..lol...Ty 2.....:)
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
6 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:05 PM
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My breeding loft
The Aviary
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Pogohawk
7 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:08 PM
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One of my breeding pairs for this season.
A pair of youngster out of the kit.
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Pogohawk
8 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:11 PM
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One of my better youngsters KIA by a coopers yesterday.
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3564 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:20 PM
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Hey thats a nice loft good luck.I like the muscle on that first black bird to the right,,what line is it.
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
10 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:26 PM
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To be perfectly honest I'm not sure. I purchased her recently because of her form and bright eye. She's just now putting together a nest so I'll let you know how the youngsters turn out. Kind of a crap shoot I know, but I'm pretty new to this and figured I'd take a chance with her.
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3565 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:38 PM
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Did you purchase from a petshop? well you do have plenty of time good luck anyway..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
11 posts
Feb 27, 2010
5:47 PM
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She might as well be. I got her off of Eggbid.com The rest of my rollers where purchased from a local fancier though. As far as I was told most of my kit are Pensom. But then again thats like saying Janssen in the racing world. Its just a very broad spectrum I guess.
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Ty Coleman
860 posts
Feb 27, 2010
8:07 PM
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Ralph, We all cant be blessed with a great Name. LOL I'm just waiting on BMC3 LOL
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Ty
Vapor Trail Lofts
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Pogohawk
13 posts
Feb 27, 2010
9:52 PM
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My most tame little almond. I think she believes I'm her mate. Its hard to get her off of me during feeding, and she's not starving, just coo's on my shoulder non stop.
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3569 posts
Feb 28, 2010
5:52 AM
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Yea Pogohawk you don't wanna get too attach to them when the BOP hits it hurts more..good luck..
Ty BMC3 good one lmao..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
14 posts
Feb 28, 2010
7:06 AM
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yea, I've noticed. I presumed I would have BOP problems because of all the large trees around my loft. I didn't know it would get this bad. We'll keep dealing with it in stride. For the first month I flew the birds we didn't have a single lose, or even see a BOP. Now that the Coopers knows we are here he come by every day. I am also fortunate enough to be a falconer and will have the ability to trap and release birds of prey come this fall, I'm hoping to be able to trap and move the resident coopers. Of course another will fill the nitch but I think it may help for time.
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steve49
435 posts
Feb 28, 2010
7:19 AM
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hey Pogo, as a falconer, are you saying you can legally trap and release bop's?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Pogohawk
15 posts
Feb 28, 2010
7:52 AM
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As a licensed falconer yes, but I limited to species and a trapping season. This is also something that anyone with little or no experience should not try. Needless to say I'm sure you know how highly illegal it is for anyone without a license and experience to do so I won't go into that. Also, I am a General falconer with four years experience. This requires a two year apprenticeship prior and during that time species that can be trapped are limited to Red Tails and American Kestrels.
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steve49
437 posts
Feb 28, 2010
8:33 AM
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ok, but you did say you'd be able to trap and relocate the resident coopers in the fall. i'm only asking since it is obvious if a licensed falconer with the proper permits can do this, it would be a great thing rather than see people do it illegally. i'm not into breaking the law, but after reading what you said, it seemed to me you could be doing a service to others as well as yourself. understand?
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Pogohawk
17 posts
Feb 28, 2010
9:09 AM
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Oh yeah I understand that. There are a few of us here in Co. that have been helping each other out. My mentor, like me, is a falconer as well. We have been able to relocate a few birds in past seasons for other faciers. Its not something thats looked at in the highest regard with falconers, but it seems to do no harm to the BOP and can save a fancier a lot of trouble. Also it may be something worth looking into in your area. You've probably got a falconer near you that might jump at the opertunity if you let them know your troubles. Our lofts can also be potentially hazardous to the hawks, as I have seen them get caught in chicken wire and bobbed traps. This can be another idea presented to the falconer that my be worth his while.
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roller heaven
119 posts
Feb 28, 2010
9:52 AM
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With all the hawks around soon all the song birds will be in dangered species.All these hawks will kill all backyard birds and instead of us feeding the pigeons in the park we will feed the bops.LOL
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3574 posts
Feb 28, 2010
5:15 PM
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Ty how many breeders you keep in your loft and what are the dimensions ?thx..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
18 posts
Feb 28, 2010
7:47 PM
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My floor plan for the loft is 4' by 8'. The loft is about 8' tall on the high side and about 7' on the shorter side. The eve runs 16" over the shorter wall and was then turned into 4 extra nest boxes that stick out from the wall adding a bit more space. If you take a look at the aviary the dimensions are the same and the nest boxes are as big as the joists are apart. I currently have 8 breeding pairs in there will some room to spare. I like the breeders to have as much room as possible, especially since most of mine (at least for now) are prisoners.
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Squabby*32
194 posts
Mar 01, 2010
7:15 PM
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Welcome pogo hawk.
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DJJeffman Spinners
ATAPWGIYAHTLY
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Pogohawk
35 posts
Mar 03, 2010
5:24 PM
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Ralph, I don't have any dimensions down on paper but I found some more photos that might give you a good idea of what the breeding loft is like.
I put four 7/8" holes at the end of each skid so that we could mount wheels on the loft if we need to move it.
Some of the frame work. (keep in mind im a hack carpenter)
Cold weather!!!
The day after
The inside!!!
The newest addition.
This will be the new kit box once its finished
The other kit box
Older kit box
some homers
My favorite grizzle
My first splash baby
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PR_rollers
GOLD MEMBER
3580 posts
Mar 03, 2010
6:50 PM
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TY thanks for the pics ..counting the 8 pics up the individuals with the front that open and closes did you make them too..
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Ralph.
Pigeons are not our whole life, but they damn sure make our lives whole!" ~
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Pogohawk
36 posts
Mar 03, 2010
8:15 PM
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I wish I could take credit for them. They were given to me by my mentor years ago. I believe he brought them back from Belgium. They were laying out to be thrown away and I asked him if I could take them home. I'm going to try my hand at building a few of my own this summer. I really like this particular style because of the size, there is a space between the dowels to slide a devider in to let the hen settle in with the cock without getting beat up. And there is also enough room to raise two clutches.
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