Rob
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Jul 07, 2004
6:50 AM
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This is a site visitor with an important question regarding medicating breeders with new hatches in the nest.
Can anyone help him? Thanks Tony Chavarria
"I am writing this e-mail for some help with a very serious question. I have a breeding loft that I just started and am learning pretty fast about the do's and don'ts.
Here is my situation. I have just raised the first round of my breeder pair. I did not medicate these birds before breeding.
I now have two birds that have lime green diarhea and one is a little blinky. Like he's ready to fall asleep. Alert when I walk up, but gets that blinky look a minute later.
I keep my loft pretty clean and only have six birds in my loft right now(4 adults and the two young at about 4 1/2 weeks). I have a fly pen they bathe in and the loft floor is dry. They get plenty of sunlight from noon on to nightfall.
My question is, Can I medicate the 4 adults now with the 2 youngsters in the breeder loft at the same time. The one feeder pair has just hatched the first egg at 18 days and the second egg will hatch tommorow.
If I medicate the youngters and the adults with a powder medication in the water, will that harm the squabs that are only days old by feeding from the feeder pair that is drinking the water that has been medicated?
Really stuck and a little hesitant to do anything without knowing which way to go! I do not have a kit box together and separating will be hard, the only place I have is the breeder loft right now". Thanks for reading, Rob
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fhtfire
13 posts
Jul 07, 2004
9:36 AM
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Well, That is a tough one. I would medicate the breeders anyway and gamble on the young ones. Ask yourself the question would your rather miss out on one round by the little ones getting O.D. and dying...or ruining your whole breeding season with sick breeders that can't raise healthy young.I have been in your boat and I medicated. I did not lose one young bird.(Lucky) But I was willing to risk just one round of young to have a good breeding season. I raised livestock for years...I feel unless the medication is real strong...the young ones are only getting a dosage for a young bird....there little crops only hold so much food and water..they are not getting an adult birds dose. Just like in livestock nursing young ones...they only get enough milk to fill there little bellies...again unless you are using a real strong drug. When ordering an Antibiotic..talk to the people at FOYS they may have a mild antibiotic that might work. But if it was me...I would risk one round of birds being over medicated..versus having sick breeders that end up costing you 5 or 6 rounds because of there illness or even worse..the breeders get worse and die...then you lose good stock and years of breeding.
Paul Fullerton
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Dry Creek lofts
28 posts
Jul 07, 2004
10:27 AM
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You can go to JEDDS on the net and they will tell you what you can use also if it will hert the young birds.
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Anonymous
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Jul 07, 2004
11:11 AM
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"blinky look" mean he/she needs water. You need to show where the water is
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Anonymous
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Jul 08, 2004
8:20 AM
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You may want to read section "Postweaning Program - 4 - 8 weeks of age" at http://www.gippsland.faithweb.com/Loft.htm
Putting youngsters on medication is not recommended they may not build natural resistance if given antibio.
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Steve
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Jul 08, 2004
12:26 PM
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Rob,
You probably have E-Coli or some form of Samonela bacteria with the sign of green or loose droppings.
You have no choice but to treat the breeders and young at the same time or loose them.
This sign is usually fatal in the end.
The blinking eyes is a sign of dehidration which is from the bacteria and it also is shown in weaning birds who can't find the water.
Get em on amoxicilian,or something in the antibiotic line fast that they will react to.
Foys has about anything for this and will help you out with any questions you have.
Later
Steve
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J_Star
12 posts
Sep 16, 2004
5:19 PM
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I agree with Steve. Use Amoxicilian for 7 to 10 days. Change your water daily. Amoxicilian is awide spectrum antibiotic that is good for any bacterial infections.
Last Edited by J_Star on Sep 16, 2004 5:21 PM
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