Anonymous
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Jun 19, 2004
3:17 PM
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I would like to know from everyone who comes to this board how many birds you own and what breeds thanks.
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fhtfire
5 posts
Jun 19, 2004
5:57 PM
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Right now I have about 40 birds including kit birds, breeders, and what I have in the nest right now. I raise Birmingham Rollers. Woodland California.
Paul Fullerton
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rollerpigeon1963
10 posts
Jun 19, 2004
6:46 PM
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I have 20 breeder pairs and 30 foster pairs. With enough room for 4 kit, 20 birds per kit. so I could have 180 birds at one time. But I usually raise around 80 to 100 and cull hard. Keeping one to two kits of hold overs.
Brian Middaugh
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M.H.
8 posts
Jun 19, 2004
8:43 PM
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Brian, How long do you give a bird before you cull it? In the past I think I culled birds to soon, if they are flying and kitting well I now keep them longer to see if they develope more. Can you tell when they start spinning how good their style is or can they improve? If so how do you run so many birds through four kits? I've only had rollers for four years now. Mark Hiler Oxford,Ohio
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
84 posts
Jun 19, 2004
10:05 PM
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Well I hate to count this time of year, but I would say probably just over 400 birds. In addition to my rollers I also raise West of England Tumblers, Helmets and Mookees for show. Bred from about 60 show pairs which are all broken up now and still have 24 pair of roller hard at work. Banded about 270 total so far for all breeds this year. As of today 80 rollers banded and should end at about 150 banded by August or when the seven kit boxes are filled. Yes, I am that crazy..lol
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Highflyer
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Jun 20, 2004
11:33 AM
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I have close to 50 junk birds left after my neighbor's cat found a way into my coup. I did have some rollers way off Pensom line. I LOVE Iranian highflying tumblers though.
Anyone in Southern Cal area who knows of a reputable breeder where I can get some highflyers?
my e-mail address is
derwish93222@yahoo.com
thanx
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highroller
9 posts
Jun 20, 2004
12:00 PM
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I breed from about 10 pairs of rollers at a time and have room for about 80 kit birds. I will be full when my last round hatches out the last week of June. Anything hatching later than that is easy prey when the song birds head south and the hawks get hungry in October.
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rollerpigeon1963
11 posts
Jun 20, 2004
1:06 PM
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Mark,
It all depends on the family of birds. Now that I have had the same family of birds now for the past 6 to 7 years. That is counting the time I was out because of the divorce. But I know that my family comes in to the roll pretty early around 5 to 6 months. Now after they are about that age and there is a problem bird with kitting I will cull the non-kitting birds. Birds that bump or rolldown during this time will be rolldowns in the near future. The way my family is if a bird comes in early and fast like a over night wonder. I know for a fact within a few days it will be down for good.
Now I know of a few other families that take up to 16 to 18 months to come in to the roll. I can't wait that long with the hawk problems I had. But there is people who can and has very good luck with them.
Now culling hard will make your breeder cages stronger. It will give you birds easier to train the way you want them to train for you. Out of the 80 plus birds I raised last year I only stocked 1. I had some problems like others with the birds this past season. But I believe if I breed from the air and seen for my own eyes. What I can raise and what it is able to do then it makes it all worth it.
But back to the question about when to cull, it is all based on your family of birds and the conditions they are exposed to.
Thanks your good friend Brian Middaugh
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warbie
3 posts
Jun 20, 2004
5:40 PM
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At this time I have 35 birmingham Rollers, two separate families in two seperate coop areas. I also have 20 homers. Birmingham Rollers are my passion. The homers are here because my eldest daughter wanted to try them. I have had as many as 100 rollers but culled the snot out of them this spring. We live near Peterborough ontario Canada
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Perfect Drift
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Jun 20, 2004
10:04 PM
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We have 2 West of England's, 2 Rollers(all males), 4 pairs of Komanor Magpie Tumblers, 2 pair of Racers, 1 pair of English Saddleback Muff tumblers (Magpie's),8 young racers, 6 young Tumblers and 3 young Saddleback Muffs. How's that for a mixed up bunch of happy birds. My daughter and I only started last fall and we sure have enjoyed the heck outa them so far. Total 35 birds, we culled hard in early June.
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Anonymous
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Jun 22, 2004
8:27 AM
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Rollers only. Kept few other breeds in the past. Currenly have only 5 rollers. Lost many to Falcon this year.
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What happens when yo
Guest
Jun 22, 2004
10:18 AM
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What happens when you are wiped out? Say if a falcon or other predator destroys your entire lifes work, then what? How do you restock if it is a family you have been working on ofr ever. I know in Ontario Canada there aren't alot of us honest guys around so how do a lot of you rebuild?
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rollerpigeon1963
12 posts
Jun 22, 2004
3:19 PM
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Guest,
You said it's a family of birds you have been working with for ever. Meaning a long time or for a few years. Well after a few years you should have an ideal on what birds you are breeding from and what birds you are flying. So you shouldn't be flying your stock birds. They have proven them-selves and earn a spot in the loft. That way you can keep breeding and with any luck your problem will die of a heart attack or something. Which will allow you to fly your young birds again.
Now I know a few people who gets wiped out every year by hawks. I was one of them, I lost 5 birds at a time during my flys. And it wasn't a rare case to loose 2 to 3 a day training the birds. it was impossible to fly the birds. So I had to do it here and there and finally I moved. Haven't had any as of yet and I love it.
So if I missed the question I sorry and hope to see your reply so I can get a better grip of what you were saying.
Thanks Brian Middaugh
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nicksiders
58 posts
Jun 23, 2004
8:32 PM
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I have 34 birds...........all birmingham rollers
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Mother lode lofts
29 posts
Jun 28, 2004
3:48 PM
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Only Rollers here,I breed out of about 9-12 pair but generaly have a few extra stock birds in the stock loft,at the end of breeding season I will have 4 kits of youngsters and one old bird kit (the A team),personally I don't like "to many" birds as it gets to confusing and I loose focus on game plans in the stock loft.
Scott Campbell
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~olichka~
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Jul 03, 2004
9:55 AM
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..............fhtfire..............
you live in woodland CA? RIGHT?
DO YOU KNOW A ROLLERS CLUB IN SACRAMENTO CA?
if you do plese tell me the website or e-mail adres.
thanks.
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Anonymous
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Jul 03, 2004
10:36 AM
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If you read an earlier post someone on this board already asked this question.
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Anonymous
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Jul 14, 2004
12:57 PM
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Does anybody know where to purchase good rollers in Sacramento,CA or anywhere closed to Sacramento? I'd like to purchase a pair or two for my nephew's birthday as a gift. If anyone does have some for sale or know where to get it from, then please email me at davisyong48@hotmail.com
Yong.
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Roller Over
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Aug 27, 2004
2:58 PM
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I have five pairs of Iranian Highflyers, four pairs of Birmingham Rollers and a whole bunch of Homers in the Southern California Region
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K.Naylor
3 posts
Aug 27, 2004
3:16 PM
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The NCRC is a club that is in the Sac. area. You can email me at knaylor35@yahoo.com for more info
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rollers
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Aug 30, 2004
4:17 PM
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I just got into the roller game and boy is it fun!!!
homers fly away and you wait and wait and wait.
anyway I have 6 birds all younguns in their first molt.
two white ones one has two blck spots on his trailing wing feathers and the other has red freckles on its face, blk chk/wf,red chk/wf,a dun or tortise[i think]colored and a blue bar. love em already
redneckhippie15
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rollerpigeon
Site Moderator
153 posts
Aug 30, 2004
9:01 PM
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I have about 75-80. With a few exceptions, these are flown birds that have shown me they can do it right. I have room for 16 pairs and have that many going right now to fill some kit orders.
I have plans to fly 3 kits (1 holdover) this coming year so this will add to the number.
I fly all Birmingham Rollers and call my family Ruby Rollers. FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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highrollers
10 posts
Aug 31, 2004
8:08 PM
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I had kit of fifteen all Rollers until two days ago now I am down to ten bird kit and one pair breeding. Had Up to 40 at one time lost them to falcons. I will be getting more soon. Does anyone one of the Breeder in Riverside CA. or Hemet?
Last Edited by highrollers on Aug 31, 2004 8:15 PM
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
212 posts
Sep 02, 2004
1:16 PM
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There are A LOT of flyers in that area. What is it you would like to know?
Brian.
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909 roller
1 post
Nov 06, 2004
10:00 PM
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hi im new here
hey mccormicklofts is seems your familiar with
flyers in my area, im about 20 miles west of riverside CA
im a newbie to the sport but im very serious about it.
i am interested in buying good birds at a reasonable price,
from somewhere near me, maybe you know someone who might
have some good birds for sale, in my area, or anyone
that might be able to help let me know.
caddionswitches83@yahoo.com
brian
Last Edited by 909 roller on Nov 06, 2004 10:02 PM
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JUrbon
23 posts
Nov 07, 2004
10:54 AM
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I curently have 40 young birds remaining from this season and a small # of holdovers from last season to total 48 kit birds and I like Scott do not like to hold onto to many birds and I believe that if your breeding program is going in the rite direction than you shouldn't have to breed from more that 8-12 pair to still come up with a good group of young each year. If you have to breed 3oo birds a year to get the few good holdovers that most get then I dont think that your percentages are high enough. I used 7 pair this season and normally I run between 8-12 pair and usually band between 60-80 birds and I dont sell birds so that leaves me with a pretty good # of birds to work with each season. Joe
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STARFIRE
62 posts
Nov 08, 2004
11:51 AM
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Hi Guys;
I live in Mississauga Ontario Canada and I keep about 200 birds.My family is Pensom and I have had the same birds since 1968.I have a mutation from the Pensom line with a CREST that I call STARFIRE crests.I have been working on them since 1980.I keep about15 pair of Crests and 25 pair of Pensom rollers.I have about 65 young birds that have been locked down for the winter,in my fly coop.My flycoop,
is a tin building 10x12ft.and I have 7 flycoops inside that can hold 30 birds each.I bred about 130 young this year but have only 65 left.I cant keep the young around too long because guys keep coming and buying them up as soon as they see them spin.I had a few rolldowns (4) and a few I lost,
and I lost about 15 going light.If I didn't have the Crested
birds I wouldnt have to keep so many.I also have 2 pair of Indian Fantails.Take a look at my website=
pages.zdnet.com/stan_a35
Stan Arnold
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Alan Bliven
23 posts
Nov 08, 2004
7:56 PM
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I have two families of Flying (performing) Oriental Rollers. One is the Dale Husband family and one is an imported family from Germany. I have 4 pairs of each. They are completely different birds. They both have different colors and patterns and flying ability.
They are not the show OR. The NPA recognizes the FOR as a separate and rare breed from the show OR.
These fly and perform like a Birmingham roller but do more than just spin. They also do a deep tail ride, a propeller spin, and are divers that do an open spiral dive, a tight spiral dive and a straight loft dive like a Donek when called to the loft.
http://www.wod.com/fors/
Also, I have 4 pairs of Rostov Katschuni Statnije (Russian court yard performing tumblers) in red, white, black selfs and one pair of Chiliks in red and yellow saddle. These are front wards tumblers and fancy show birds. http://rzhev.tripod.com/statnije/rostov/rostovski.html
And I have 6 crested Baku Boinije (Russian Clap Tumblers) in red and black colortails. That's white with a solid colored tail. These are the Russian version of a roller. They are highfliers and performers who clap their wings real load before spinning and they spin forwards, not backwards and spin on the way up, and spin upwards, not down.http://rzhev.tripod.com/boinije/baku/baku.html
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rollem42
2 posts
Nov 25, 2004
12:24 PM
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Hello all! I'm new to the site and have had rollers exclusively for 26 years now. I havn't bred for the past 3 years. Almost quit, almost died from pneumonia in January and plan to come back this coming year like "die hard with a vengence". I live in Palmdale, CA and have 6 very good
pairs and 8 foster pairs,(I'm going to do a lot of line breebing and let the fosters raise the majority of the youngsters).I have 10 holdovers and a good friend gave me a kit of pure Joconette's to help me get back in the game.
I have room for 3 more 24 bird kits. So I have a total of
between 55-60 birds and I'm glad to be back.
rollem42
Last Edited by rollem42 on Nov 25, 2004 12:24 PM
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RolyPoly
10 posts
Nov 26, 2004
7:21 AM
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Hi Everybody. We have nine rollers. We started this year with three Jaconettes we bought online and one little red bar hen that Mr. Ouelette brought to us. He told us lots of things about flying and was glad to leave his hen to "have a good life raising lots of babies." She and RolyPoly have had four babies since, while the other pair had one. We didn't have great success with raising babies, not sure why? But each pair would have two eggs, but only one chick would survive. We have yet to fly the youngsters but look forward to it. When all the pigeons got out by accident one day, we saw the red bar hen and one of her sons roll together, which was exciting! Phil and Debbie
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Adele70
1 post
Jul 05, 2005
2:36 PM
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I had a pair of Donek pigeons, 9 weeks old and I opened the coop to let them out and they flew away in separate directions. How can I get them back? They wore bands put on by the owner that sold them to me, is it possible someone will find them and contact him?
Any information will be very helpful. These were the only pigeons I had.
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Bird man
1 post
Oct 22, 2005
8:00 PM
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Hi!!
Right now i have 45 Birmingham rollers
Two families they are from England (Europe)
Have a good friend over there(crazy birds)lol'
(Collors) blue white&blue black white&black
These birds u shud fly one season if u want them alive
They just dont stop rolling,they roll to deep for any rollers.Young ones roll after a second flight after a month
is scary to wach. They hit the tries roofs ground peoples cars,some times they say alive.But survivors stay in for breeding,its fun and sad at same time. Mario......
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LONGS ROLLER LOFT
5 posts
Oct 24, 2005
1:29 PM
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you asked how many and what kinds. My wife says too many and I say not enough and I raise only rollers. about 100 I'm sorry to say she just don't get it. Yours in the sport Rick
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motherlodelofts
390 posts
Oct 24, 2005
1:59 PM
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Rick they never will LOL LOL
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birdman
75 posts
Oct 24, 2005
2:59 PM
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'Bird man'
I noticed that you are using a screen name very similar to mine.
Just so the readers of this message board don't get confused as to the posts, can you let us know who you are and where you are from.
Thanks,
'Birdman' (Russ)
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upcd
53 posts
Oct 25, 2005
12:14 AM
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Greetings, I have Brimingham Rollers, West of England Tumblers, Indain Fantails. I have about 70 birds. I am in San Bernandino, Ca. Thatis Southern California. 30 mins. from Hemet and Riverside.
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big al
142 posts
Oct 25, 2005
7:40 PM
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Hey there,
I have all Birmingham's.
I have a small operation, including breeders about 80 birds. I breed from 6 regular pair and 2 projects.
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See you in the roll!
Big Al
"High Plains Spinner Loft"
Last Edited by big al on Oct 25, 2005 7:43 PM
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Richard A.
73 posts
Oct 28, 2005
7:23 PM
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I have approximately 80 Breeders and fly (3) kits.
I have had rollers for approximately 30+ years, and developed my own stock years back, and am constantly trying to improve. Breeding decisions are so critical in trying to improve your stock or even to remain at the same level.
Richard A.
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