EAGLE VIEW LOFTS
1 post
May 11, 2004
11:08 AM
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HELLO EVERYONE. I'M IN NEED OF A LITTLE ADVICE. I HAVE A YOUNG COCK (JAN 04 BIRD) THAT ROLLS WITH SPEED, VELOCITY AND DEPTH 20-25 FEET. THIS IS MY BEST ROLLER IN MY YOUNG BIRD KIT AND IS VERY IMPRESSIVE FOR A YOUNG BIRD. HOWEVER, THIS BIRD ONLY FLYS WITH THE KIT, WHEN THE KIT IS FLYING RELATIVELY LOW AND ONLY KITS FOR 10-15 MINUTES. AFTER THAT, HE DROPS OUT AND FLYS BY HIMSELF, ROLLING VERY OFTEN AND DEEP LIKE CLOCK WORK. WHEN THE KIT COMES BACK DOWN TO APPROX 40 FEET HE REJOINS THE KIT AND KITS PERFECTLY. I'M THINKING ABOUT STOCKING HIM. SHOULD I STOCK HIM, GIVE HIM MORE TIME TO FLY WITH THE REST OF THE KIT OR IS HE A CULL....QQQQQ
ANY ADVICE IS WELCOMED.
MIKE
Last Edited by EAGLE VIEW LOFTS on May 12, 2004 8:35 AM
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Anonymous
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May 11, 2004
1:48 PM
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Only you know your stock. But he is still a young birds so I would give him some time to prove himself. He might be good but if he don't kit he useless in competion. Give the little guy some time.
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Steve S.
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May 11, 2004
6:19 PM
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Mike,
The Jan 04 roller is just still a very young bird.
I keep my eye on a bird that rolls 20 to 25 feet at that age to see if its going to hold the roll or hit.
The best kit handlers in the roller world waite 2 years before stocking a kit bird to see if it stays stable and has the speed and quality.
Your young bird seems to feel unstable at a low height and fights the roll, time will tell.
Your bird might straighten up and start kiting it is to young to make a call on it, just continue to fly it and see.
Later
Steve
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EAGLE VIEW LOFTS
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May 12, 2004
8:26 AM
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THANKS FOR THE ADVICE ANON AND STEVE. I'M JUST GETTING STARTED IN THE WORLD OF ROLLERS AND PURCHASED A KIT OF SQUEAKERS. JAN/04 THRU MARCH/04 BIRDS. I KNOW THE AVERAGE FANCIER WOULD NORMALLY STOCK BIRDS AFTER ABOUT TWO YEARS OF FLYING. HOWEVER, I CURRENTLY HAVE NO BREEDERS AND I'M IN THE PROCESS OF CHOOSING A COUPLE OF BREEDER PAIRS FROM THE AIR. I WAS JUST LOOKING DOWN THE ROAD AND WONDERING WHAT YOU GUYS THOUGHT ABOUT A BIRD THAT HAD NICE ROLL, BUT ONLY KITS AT 40 FEET OR LESS. THANKS AGAIN.
MIKE
Last Edited by EAGLE VIEW LOFTS on May 12, 2004 8:37 AM
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George R.
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May 14, 2004
3:38 PM
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Mike try feeding the bird seperate from the others it may be he,s only eating milo and just aint strong enough to keep up with the kit and hold the roll.
Also try flying him every other day and see what happens if he dont straiten out then stop flying him with your kit as he will give your other birds bad habits.
He may still be useful as a foster parent when you do find a pair thats worth breeding out of.
Good Luck
George Ruiz
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EAGLE VIEW LOFTS
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May 20, 2004
11:14 AM
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THANKS GEORGE.. I SEPARATED THE YOUNG BIRD AND FED IT UP REAL NICE. GUESS WHAT, IT ROLLS AND KITS WITH THE REST. AWESOME ADVICE THANKS.
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Anonymous
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May 26, 2004
10:44 PM
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Hey people, I need some help. i've been raising rollers for 2 months already, and i have a kit with 16 birds in it. but right now i have 2 birds ( almost mature ) that are from great blood lines that wont fly. i feed them correctly, every single birds fly but the two birds wont fly. I've read about the article that says Feed them a lil bit less. so they would fly, and still that's not working. and i know if i feed them more they still wont fly. I do not wish to take them out of my kit, because i cannot compete this year if i do that. need help Thanks Kevin
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George Ruiz
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May 26, 2004
11:57 PM
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Kevin take the two birds away from the kit and feed them milo and millet seed mix instead of the regular feed .
For around five days after you release the kit take the two that wont fly and release them down the street around a 1/4 mile away from your kit box .
If the two dont start flying after you feed them the high carb stuff (milo and millet ) then you can get rid of these two or use them as pumpers (fosters).
Dont leave these two in your kit or soon other birds will refuse to fly as they will pick up the two birds that dont fly habits.
Good luck and remember keep the birds in the air where they belong!
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Anonymous
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May 27, 2004
7:43 AM
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Great advice from George. It sounds like they are big eater and you probably overfeeding them(gained weight and got lazy). What do you feed to flyers?
To bring them in shape you need to seperate them first and feed them ONLY milo for 3 weeks and only give water after feed. They should come in lean condition and will fly with kit
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Mother lode lofts
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May 28, 2004
7:03 PM
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They sound like culls to me,my money says that those two will allways be a problem no matter what you do,they may get better but will still give you fits down the road,thats been my experiance anyway.
P.S. It doesnt matter what the bloodline is,they all still create culls,and even with my best highest producing pairs I will still get culls out of them.
Last Edited by Mother lode lofts on May 28, 2004 7:03 PM
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Russ
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May 28, 2004
9:20 PM
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Sounds like a cull to me. If you choose to stock these type of birds then be prepared to see your problem again and again in future generations. I would separate and fly the trouble makers by themselves before some of your other youngsters pick up the habit. You might actually have something better in the kit right now that is only lacking full development. Remember, you will get out of your stock what you put into it. If it won't kit then it's a cull.
Russ
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