bigwilly
1068 posts
Oct 26, 2009
1:38 PM
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What is your oppinion of Norm Reed birds? Not from somebody else but pure Norm Reed birds from the man himself. What have you experienced with them? Honestly
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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wannaroll
80 posts
Oct 26, 2009
4:53 PM
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A freind of mine has some Norm Reed birds and they are great in the air. He has several strains and he ranks the Norm Reed birds near the top. I hope this helps!
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
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polarbear
52 posts
Oct 26, 2009
4:58 PM
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Big Willy, I have five pairs from Norm. I got them earlier this year, but I have not flown any young due to bop.
I will pair them up in january 2010 and fly there young. I will let you know how the young perform.
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bigwilly
1070 posts
Oct 31, 2009
1:23 AM
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This was my first year really working with them. I flew the shhh out of them and maybe even overworked them at times. However, I did notice that have extreme velocity, kitting ability is great,and they will give you big breaks.
I did not get to c them give me their full potential because of a couple of significant reasons. The most significant is the fact that I fly directly behind a fwy. The birds are constantly diving into the fwy. I mean sometimes it get so bad they dont even fly high. This is most of the time. This causes them not go into one(spin) because they are worried about hitting
I am hoping that when these birds are older they will be a site to watch and the birds and I will get our sshh 2gether
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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bigwilly
1071 posts
Oct 31, 2009
1:33 AM
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One important thing I learned this year and took more serious, and begining to understand the importace.. LOFT MANAGEMENT. I have been into pigeons for years and just know understanding the significance. WOW
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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quickspin
1077 posts
Oct 31, 2009
11:39 AM
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With any family you start you have to work with them. You will not get good results just by the name or following the name. Fly them hard is the only way. There are many that fly the Norm Reed birds and not all do the same.
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Salas Loft
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Hector Coya
575 posts
Nov 01, 2009
7:28 PM
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Very true Rolando Salas,You got that right.
Hector Coya-SGVS
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fhtfire
2180 posts
Nov 01, 2009
7:58 PM
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Big WIlly,
What happend to your phone number...give me a call!!
rock and ROLL
Paul
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Squabby*32
113 posts
Nov 02, 2009
1:23 AM
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Good luck with the Reeds in the future.
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DJJeffman Spinners
ATAPWGIYAHTLY
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AK-Roller Loft
149 posts
Nov 18, 2009
10:29 PM
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My young Reed Stuff I Bred this year 09 Cock~ Dynamite Speed and Velocity
Me And The Man Himself
Ak~
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Last Edited by on Nov 21, 2009 9:56 AM
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bigwilly
1072 posts
Nov 19, 2009
11:25 PM
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Hey AK. No doubt in my mind that the bird you bred has 40 blood all throught it
BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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winwardrollers
329 posts
Nov 20, 2009
3:08 PM
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AK
You stated ..."My Pure Norm Reed birds are Awesome. The key is to know how to Breed them For Performance."
That is a pretty broad statement...Can you be more specific....it sounds like you have more insite to this line of birds specifically.
bwinward
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AK-Roller Loft
152 posts
Nov 20, 2009
8:44 PM
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All my birds are the from the same family bloodline, I've been focusing on my best Performing birds I have and been weeding out birds that are not really top notch to me and i've been pairing only my quality birds up, after they have already proven themselves to me in the air, what happens here is that I am trying to build my own line. I fly all my birds then select my best birds to stock usually after the second molt most birds start to kick in at their best. Im just breeding 4 pairs of my very best birds right now. My Cocks and hens and breeders are all seperated. I get advice from Norm and close friends with that family bloodline that has been getting Quality birds that Norm has produced over the years old and new stuff because we all have the same family. This system has been working for me, but everyone has their own way of doing things, I hope this info may help you out a little..
my set small and simple
thanks Ak~
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Ak Roller~
Last Edited by on Nov 22, 2009 8:59 PM
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polarbear
67 posts
Feb 12, 2010
7:12 PM
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I have a question? What is the difference between Norm Reeds "old family and new family".
I have read it here before about his new and old stuff, but have never understood it.
Did he change families or concentrate his efforts with certain birds within his "old family" to start his "new family".
Any input is appreciated.
Thanks
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Sound Rollers
226 posts
Feb 17, 2010
2:55 AM
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Good Question Polarbear.
John
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bigwilly
1107 posts
Feb 17, 2010
7:31 AM
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There is no difference. They are all the same birds. Norm laughs at the guys that make comments on the new family and old. He says that they are all the same. If you look at thed ped you will c that all of the birds are in the peds just not up close
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
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Squabby*32
182 posts
Feb 17, 2010
9:10 PM
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Nice set up AK Roller.
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DJJeffman Spinners
ATAPWGIYAHTLY
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bigwilly
1110 posts
Feb 19, 2010
10:02 PM
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Ive been able to fly somewhat. Im noticing that the birds are flying higher and the fwy seems not to b an issue. For now. The birds are showing me some good action,speed, not as deep as I want. But I know its coming. Got hit by a falcon I think wednesday so I locked back down. Trying to save them for the upcoming shows.
This year these birds are expected to show there a-- off. For real
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BIG WILLY
TOPP FLIGHT/NCRC
Last Edited by on Feb 19, 2010 10:04 PM
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JBow
158 posts
Feb 21, 2010
9:53 PM
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AK No disrespect to Norm as he is a legend. That cock bird you posted is eithter a hen ready to lay or a bird that has rolled down. Just my opinion. Jim Bowen.
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Sound Rollers
229 posts
Feb 22, 2010
4:07 AM
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JBow, no disrespect, are you joking? if not please break down your observation, I'm sure we would all like to hear it.
John
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Scott
2891 posts
Feb 22, 2010
7:21 AM
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He isn't joking.. the back is weak.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
4161 posts
Feb 22, 2010
7:59 AM
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Jim and Scott, I agree. There is something that just doesn't look right with that bird.
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Nick Siders
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Hector Coya
636 posts
Feb 22, 2010
8:19 AM
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Its just one picture,that bird could look diferent in another pose,besides it looks real young,hard to tell how its going to look in a year.
Hector
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
706 posts
Feb 22, 2010
10:07 AM
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I would say AK knows his birds and he said it has speed and velocity.JDA
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Sound Rollers
230 posts
Feb 22, 2010
11:21 AM
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Joe, sounds like the bottom line.
John
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polarbear
75 posts
Feb 22, 2010
2:25 PM
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Scott and Jim, I am fairly new into the rollers and am trying to learn as much as possible about good performing rollers.
Can you tell me why or what makes this bird look weak in the back or what makes it look not right?
I am not trying to stir the pot, or put down someones bird. I am just curious and wanting to learn.
Thanks
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nicksiders
GOLD MEMBER
4162 posts
Feb 22, 2010
4:37 PM
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Polar - what is wrong with stirring the pot?(LOL) The wings should not only be carried on top of the tail, but at its shoulders the wing should be elevated above the back. When a hen is egging its back will appear elevated above the wing. The tail also looks wrong in its carriage, but that may be due to when the picture was taken and what the bird was doing at that time.
I know you didn't ask me, but I am the one who said the bird just don't look right. Now, Jim and Scott along with me cannot give you a value of the birds performance without watching it fly.
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Nick Siders
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Scott
2895 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:25 PM
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Polar.. the tail should line with the back... back muscles is what carries it ..control and bumping generaly are the result given time.
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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polarbear
76 posts
Feb 22, 2010
9:28 PM
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Nick and Scott thanks for the description and answers.
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JBow
160 posts
Feb 22, 2010
10:07 PM
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polarbear it just could be a bad picture. The bird looks like a eggy hen but that may be just the picture. Keep in mind though that birds that display this type of stance are generally weak in the back or have rolled down and bumped. The bird could be a champ my friend it could just be the picture. Jim Bowen
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polarbear
135 posts
Aug 07, 2010
11:46 PM
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Anybody flying birds from Norms bloodline care to share what feed has worked best for them on a young bird kit?
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Bricksfall
45 posts
Aug 08, 2010
2:56 AM
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I have a very nice Reed cock bird and two hens. I flew a kit and pick the best to breed. After a year plus of flying I pulled the cock bird and the two hens. And I still have a cock bird in my primary (A TEAM) team. He is part of the top three in that kit. The only reason I believe he isn't #1, is cause he has a slightly larger build than the rest of the kit. But never the less he doesn't miss a beat, and always delivers 30-40 ft. These 4 birds break twice a minute, no less. I did not breed these birds. They have a high level of velocity in there spin and the quality of roll is high. I will try to breed them a bit smaller, because I feel that would make them even better. I have seen smaller pure Reed birds, just not in the air. Well, not a 2 or 3 year old kit. This winter I will breed them pure strictly out of these 2 pair with foster's. Come February 2011 I will add my own twist to the gene pool. And compare the two.
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GEORGE ALDANA
HIGH GRAVITY LOFT
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