Siddiqir
37 posts
Apr 17, 2004
4:43 PM
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I have a cock roller which used to roll between 20' to 25' (less control) and lately he start rolling very deep 75'+ (no control), start hitting roof/ground
Is there a way I can save him? I would not think he will last long if I continue fly him. Yesterday he hit roof and today he hit the ground
Thanks in advance.
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rollerpigeon1963
9 posts
Apr 17, 2004
5:47 PM
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Rauf Siddiqi,
I hate to say it but he/she is a cull. I recommend never breeding from a roll down. Because you would be breeding the bad trait back into your rollers. You need something with more control into your birds. But thats just my own opinion.
Best of luck with the birds this coming season
Brian Middaugh
NBRC website
www.nbrconline.com
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rollerpigeon
Site Moderator
93 posts
Apr 17, 2004
7:04 PM
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I agree with Brian. This is a classic example of a cull; a bird that has no control and rolls down. If it had the velocity you wanted, it would "cull" itself...
Sorry, there is no way to save him but there is a way to save yourself from the grief and frustration he is bound to bring you and that is to cull him. He will not get better.
There are those who think a deep roller is a better roller, They are not. Without velocity and control, they are worthless. Also, many are of the opinion that 20' to 50' is the deepest a roller should roll. (see opinion poll) FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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Siddiqir
38 posts
Apr 17, 2004
7:49 PM
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If I switch to heavier grains would that help? I was basically feeding them Milo only for last few weeks and it may be possible this is result of feeding Milo only
This helped me getting them up for 20 minutes but now it turn into problem. The birds do fly higher but when they come around to land this cock start involving in accidents
Thanks in advance
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mother lode lofts
Guest
Apr 18, 2004
10:30 AM
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Rauf all familys are differant but here is what I'll see with my birds,here an there I'll get a bird thats just "coming" into the roll that will kinda roll flutter to the ground from a pretty good ht.,they do this because they are fighting to gain control and normally these birds gain control after doing this once or twice and can go on to be good kitbirds, "but" if they were allready well into the roll and start doing this then they just deterate from there,it's rare that I see that out of such a bird but it happens,now for the birds that just lock it up and come straight down without being able to fight it, it's rare that these birds straighten out,and either kill themselfs or I cull them,I think what you'll find with that bird is he'll allways be a problem or a stone cold rolldown no matter what you feed him.
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Siddiqir
39 posts
Apr 18, 2004
11:19 AM
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Thanks all, it sounds like "cull". I thought feeding light for long time may result in losing control as the birds get really thin and may not has same resistance(when come out of roll)
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Mother Lode Lofts
Guest
Apr 18, 2004
11:32 AM
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Rauf, it can,to a point,not all familys can handle it,and you may see birds doing a lot of bumping going in and out of the kitbox or when down low
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rollerpigeon
Site Moderator
97 posts
Apr 20, 2004
10:05 PM
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Siddiqir, I know in the past when I used wheat to break the birds down, I had more accidents too when they were coming in to land or leaving the kit box.
When I would go back to pigeon pop this would straighten them out. Feeding a kit is a fine balance between the kind of feed, the amounts fed and the family as well as the training they receive.
Tis an art and science to feed a kit to get them to perform just right. lol FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
Last Edited by rollerpigeon on Apr 20, 2004 10:06 PM
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Siddiqir
42 posts
Apr 21, 2004
9:04 AM
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Tony, What you consider as a balance diet for flying rollers. Which grains you are refering too when you say "pigeon pop".
I usually feed 90% milo and 10% wheat. If they fly good I start adding more wheat.
Thanks in advance
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