Guest
Guest
Jan 01, 2004
3:42 PM
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Hi,
I need a little information on breeding colours, especially Almonds, Can you help?.
Pat Hocking, England.
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rollerpigeon
12 posts
Jan 12, 2004
10:28 PM
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Hello Pat,
Go ahead and ask away! I am armed with my copy of "Pigeon Genetics" by Bob McGuan and there is a nice section in there on ALMONDS!
Tony Chavarria
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STARFIRE
1 post
Jan 30, 2004
5:26 PM
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BREEDING ALMONDS IS NOT AS HARD AS YOU MIGHT THINK.THERE IS THE OLD SAYING ,YOU HAVE TO BREED AN ALMOND WIH A KITE(BRONZE),WHICH WILL WORK ,BUT THERE ARE OTHER COLORS YOU CAN USE.I HAVE BRED EXCELLENT ALMONDS FROM A SOLID BLACK CHECK,WITH RED IN THE FEATHERS,WHEN YOU OPEN THE WING.YOU CAN ALSO BREED THEM TOGETHER .SOME WILL BE BLIND WITH BULGY EYES BUT NOT ALL.IT DEPENDS ON YOUR ALMOND FAMILY.YOU CAN GET THEM FROM YELLOWS ALSO ,BUT THEY WILL NOT HAVE THE GOOD YELLOW BACKGROUND,THEY WILL BE BLACK OR RED TICKED. I HOPE THIS HELPS.
Last Edited by STARFIRE on Jan 30, 2004 5:27 PM
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tim_barnwell_1966
10 posts
Jan 31, 2004
10:39 PM
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STARFIRE i just want to make shure i understood ur statement right yellow x kite will make almonds... ? two how would you breed to get best yellows!!!!
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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STARFIRE
7 posts
Feb 01, 2004
12:23 PM
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I meant that you can breed an ALMOND with a yellow and possibly get almonds=not a kite to a yellow.Every color I refer to is to be mated to an Almond.
BLACK CHECK =KITE= YELLOW=RECESSIVE RED?=
I SEE YOU HAVE KITES IN YOUR STOCK.IF YOU HAVE YOU CAN BREED ALL THE ALMONDS YOU WANT WITH THE KITE+ ALMOND
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tim_barnwell_1966
12 posts
Feb 01, 2004
8:17 PM
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starfire for my yellow> yellow x rec red should work ok to make yellow right thanks for the advice
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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Freddie
8 posts
Feb 04, 2004
4:01 PM
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Tim,
Do you want rollers or do you want colors ? Breeding for color will cost you good performance. Breed the best performers to the best performers, PERIOD.
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tim_barnwell_1966
17 posts
Feb 04, 2004
11:00 PM
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WELL truth is freddie i want both color and performens and i plan on haveing both it may take time but iv got the time i plan on breeding a lot and culling hard till i get a colors i like that performs well im a back yarder thats in this game for my pleaser not points thears one way to look at it i got the best rollers in my back yard lol but i do aprishate the imput some pepple say i can have performens and color and i agree with theam the man my stock came from is doing it and has ben for 30 years so i know i got the stock to do it with i just need a little help along the way...
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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Mother lode lofts
Guest
Feb 05, 2004
7:37 AM
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Well Tim you can't make a left turn and a right turn at the same time and you can't breed for color and performance at the same time,many say they do but color and wishful thinking will prevail before performance everytime,but if the pretty mongral colors are your thing then by all means enjoy them.
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PIGEONBOB
2 posts
Feb 05, 2004
8:03 AM
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I've been doing almonds for a few years now in my Baldhead Roller Line. I've won several shows with some of mine and while it is difficult to breed for color and another purpose, don't let anyone tell you it is impossible. My best information I had when beginning was to use Recessive Reds or Yellows. If they weren't available then find blue check because sometimes they carry bronze, which gives the good background color. If you can see a little bronze or red in the blue-check, that would be ideal. After doing that for a few years, I got very few nice colored almonds. The recessives worked much better. Bronze is ideal. How do you get bronze, you might ask. Show tipplers carry some of the best bronze, so I was able to get one that was part Bald. with the white wings, head and tail. That has made the best colors yet. You want to avoid crossing into any color that carries a 'spread' factor, such as Pure black, Opal, etc. These produce mostly white young. Almond color is very different and it will take a lot of experimentation on your part to succeed. Good Luck! Bob
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tim_barnwell_1966
19 posts
Feb 05, 2004
11:56 AM
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thanks bob thear are pepple that say you cant have color and have good rollers but i know better my uncle has ben doing it longer than iv ben alive my blood line is out of his stock so i dont see y i cant do same thing... i think evry one gets cawt up in what thay read and never try some thing difrent iv got almonds and yellows and kites that im breeding i seen my uncle fly theas same birds sevral times befor he gave me some and thay kit and rolle good so i know i can breed for color and performens it just takes moor culling and breeding best to best but it can be done iv seen it done its not just hear say iv seen theam perform
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BLUE CORNER BANTAMS
& Pigeons
BIRMINGHAM ROLLERS:
yellow : almond : kites
baldheads : rec red
brown : black : blue bar
allso breeding : CONTINENTAL ROLLERS
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