quickspin
669 posts
May 29, 2008
10:42 AM
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What is the difference between the two?
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J_Star
1597 posts
May 29, 2008
10:44 AM
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half of a second.
Jay
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quickspin
670 posts
May 29, 2008
10:52 AM
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My friend Jay Moreno he compete maybe twice in around 97-98 then he had to mouve so he gave them to his uncle then I got two from the uncle. This was the original Smith bird he use and a son from the originals Bob Scott birds. I still have them.
His birds where mostly from Bob Scott-Tom Hatcher-Leroy Smith.
This birds were in the 30-80 feet depth and not that frequent. When they drop you know they drop as you can see the depth in them and was a clean break. I have not seen that many kits any more like that.
Mostly every one is concentrating in more breaks and short depth.
I'm sorry but I like those birds better than the ones we have now.
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J_Star
1598 posts
May 29, 2008
11:06 AM
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Then use them birds in the breeder loft to put depth into your flock if your flock have the frequency.
Jay
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quickspin
671 posts
May 29, 2008
12:28 PM
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That is exactly what I'm doing right now. I just got the two birds I have always wanted took me 2 years to get them. One is a 93 and the other one is a 99.I have got some real nice ones out of them. But the thing is that I need more and they do take a lot more to come in to the roll. Slowly but getting there.
I got a daughter from the Scott bird bred to a Guil Ran hen and breeding her to the Smith bird. Then I will get back the best one and put her back to the Scott bird and back and fort to the Smith.
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J_Star
1600 posts
May 29, 2008
1:29 PM
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It looks like with their age you are short on time. You got to get going faster than you think.
Jay
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katyroller
206 posts
May 29, 2008
3:20 PM
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quickspin, start using fosters and get those breeders pumping out eggs before they go infertile on you.
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Scott
677 posts
May 29, 2008
8:58 PM
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Why, can't deeper birds break together ? I find that they can as long as they aren't controled by the roll, once they hit a particular depth it seems to be from stability issues and quality dumps.
I will always breed for depth and quality over activity, the "good" deep ones just don't come easy in numbers.
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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Hector Coya
150 posts
May 29, 2008
9:36 PM
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I know what you mean Salas. it seams that alot of the kits now are so frequent that they hardly even kit,or you constantly see birds dropping between breaks . I remember at Bob Scotts loft ,his birds where not frequent but when they rolled they all rolled,you hardly ever saw a bird drop between breaks.Hector Coya-SGVS
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Scott
680 posts
May 29, 2008
9:54 PM
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Hector, so true, those are birds not controlled by the roll,the best kits have birds that roll only on the breaks.
Frequecy is only good to a point,then the wheels fall off.
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Scott
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