W@yne
1035 posts
Feb 06, 2008
10:39 PM
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Sidlove
Are you are talking wing feather in general?
If yes i like to have medium to broad feather with plenty of cover just my preference.
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W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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kopetsa
225 posts
Feb 06, 2008
10:44 PM
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I have no clue but I would probably say narrow because the bird would probably go faster.. But if this makes any sense I think broad might help it spin better..
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luis
621 posts
Feb 06, 2008
10:55 PM
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I prefer narrow flight feathers based on what i've read.It's supposed allow more air to go through the wings wich in turn allows for faster wing beat wich = more revolutions.
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JMUrbon
346 posts
Feb 07, 2008
3:20 PM
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I like the narrow flights and narrow secondaries along with little back cover, Have seen much faster spin in MY birds with this combination. I also dont really want any flutter action as I like to see an explosion when they break with little to no warning its comming. JMHO. Joe Urbon
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nicksiders
2548 posts
Feb 07, 2008
3:23 PM
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We are getting statements from both ends of the spectrum on this thread. Has there ever been a study concerning what is the optimal?
Nick
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JMUrbon
347 posts
Feb 07, 2008
3:25 PM
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Just in my own birds Nick, But I have followed their traits for years and I know what works for them. Joe
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birdman
479 posts
Feb 07, 2008
5:54 PM
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Much like Joe, all of my speed birds have narrow primaries and most have sparse or no backcover.
Also, many years ago I visited Norm Reed and he told me the narrow primaries in his birds were an indicator of speed, especially the last primary.
Russ
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GREED FOR SPEED LOFT
424 posts
Feb 07, 2008
6:45 PM
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Definatly refined wing feathers.
R-Luna
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smoke747
778 posts
Feb 07, 2008
6:52 PM
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Shadow, Luis, you guy sare talking about the delivery of the roll but what about the drag when bringing the wings back up towards the original position to start the stroke over again.
narrow the only way to fly
smoke747
Last Edited by on Feb 07, 2008 6:57 PM
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sundance
435 posts
Feb 07, 2008
7:13 PM
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makes sence to me. I`ll check some of mine tomorrow.Can someone post examples of different types?
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Last Edited by on Feb 07, 2008 7:14 PM
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yellowking
1 post
Feb 07, 2008
7:34 PM
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a breeder told me...and i am not a flyer...broad wing catches too much air...narrow wings cuts quickly and easier for 20+ feet...
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SpinZone
29 posts
Feb 07, 2008
8:26 PM
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Yellow you are correct about that and to add to it, my experience shows that broad flighted birds can resist the roll/seldom in performance.
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Scott
1 post
Feb 07, 2008
9:10 PM
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Anything except long wide secodaries,at least with my birds.
Scott
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nicksiders
2554 posts
Feb 07, 2008
11:03 PM
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Well, I went and checked out my birds more closely. I didn't have any other breeds to compare with them, but the general shape of the primaries is they thin down very sharply right after the pin starts feathering. The secondaries may be sparse, but again I do not have any other birds or breeds to compare.
Nick
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W@yne
1043 posts
Feb 08, 2008
4:02 AM
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This is how i like my flights you can see this wing has plenty of cover and not very thin flights
Let me know what you guys think.
PS
Notice the ring on the pigeon that my buddy Dave Vang sent me over.
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W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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Last Edited by on Feb 08, 2008 4:41 AM
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Shadow
52 posts
Feb 08, 2008
5:27 AM
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Those look ideal primaries for me Wayne,as the wing movement consists of two different strokes and works as two differnt units ,primaries are used primarily for downward motion,essential for gaps in these outside flight to lessen resistance to downward motion,opposite requirements for secondaries,with required width hence no gaps,to give more resistance for upward lift,once again I will stress this is my opinion only.
Last Edited by on Feb 08, 2008 5:29 AM
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Scott
6 posts
Feb 08, 2008
6:22 AM
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That is what I see here also Wayne
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Just my Opinion
Scott
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W@yne
1048 posts
Feb 08, 2008
11:49 AM
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You guys have any pictures of your narrow flighted birds i could see.
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W@yne UK
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nicksiders
2557 posts
Feb 08, 2008
11:51 AM
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Wayne,
That is what I am looking at in my lofts. Noted that on the wing there are two seperate forms of feather. The very end is the thin tips and going back you have the broad tips. That is what I get out of it. I also after checking 5 or 6 find they are so similar that I cannot recognize any difference from one bird to the next. These six birds also went across a wide spectrum of performance. Inother words I could not see any difference of the wing feathering from my worse to my best. It is probably in that space between the eyes that seperates them in performance(LOL).
Nick Siders
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W@yne
1049 posts
Feb 08, 2008
12:01 PM
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Lol
Yes Nick all my birds seem to have the same wing type like you stated being from a tight gene pool they are.
Like you said also theres no difference with one wing to the next in my best performers to the average roller in the kit box.
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W@yne UK
Patience Perseverance Perfection
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SiDLoVE
165 posts
Feb 08, 2008
7:42 PM
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Hey Wayne, ugly band ..pretty bird..lmao....if you notice your birds tips narrow out...2 1/2 inches from the broad side from the last couple of flights....Smoke your right when i first posted this was for others could know theres less drag with the narrow tips ..see yaa
sidlOVe*
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