longarm
75 posts
Feb 13, 2007
5:46 PM
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hi guys
I have read in previous posts that some fly kits of 30 + birds. I have thought about this and seems like a great idea since I have gone throught the pain of trying to integrate a new bird in after a loss.
now to my question. What if any effects and how do you manage them do you see by pulling birds out for the flys ( getting down to the allowed numbers) How long before the flys do you pull the spare birds.
We know that all birds are not created equal in a kit. Now assume of 30 birds we have one as a pacer ( lead bird) and a seperate one is the primary trigger bird. If our pacer or trigger bird is near the lower end of the ranking in a kit would you chosse to leave them in or pull them and look for a new bird to come up and fill the position to improve the over all performance of the kit and risk losseing the good pace and fly pattern or a weaker trigger Keep in mind in this senario all birds are A team birds. thanks c.j.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
1168 posts
Feb 13, 2007
7:34 PM
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I'll fly some younger squeaker kits together as mob kits, but not the older kits. When making teams I usually have around 25 birds in the kit. I simply take notes every day of who is stiff, who rolled funny, who did something stupid, etc, etc until I am down to the right number. I am usually a bird or two over 20 down to the last time they fly.
Brian.
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nicksiders
1399 posts
Feb 13, 2007
10:04 PM
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I can't tell you what I first thought the title of this thread was....LOL. I thought "what in the....."
I run about the same system as BMC. My "A" and "B" teams run about 15 to 25 birds with a squeeker team running sometimes 40 and what a catastrophy that is....WOW. Makes you sometimes think why in the hell you put yourself through this.
At the peak of the year I will have a "Varsity' a "Junior Varsity" With a "A" and "B" team for the youngsters. Then promote and demote often.
Nick
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Snicker Rollers
Last Edited by on Feb 14, 2007 2:10 PM
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Steve_uk
84 posts
Feb 14, 2007
12:42 PM
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I fly 23-25 birds in a kit
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Alohazona
237 posts
Feb 15, 2007
8:53 AM
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I fly my youngsters this way for quite awhile.The large kit in general flys alittle slower and lower.This will encourage them to kit better and rejoin the kit.
When I look to fly smaller more observable kits off the larger one,I select by age and similar body size.Then I can keep track and record the individuals better for the longterm kits they will fly in.....Aloha,Todd
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Velo99
927 posts
Feb 15, 2007
10:51 AM
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I`ll fly 30-35 together for a few weeks and pick out the best performers.This is how I start the seperation process.
yits
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V99
Good spinners don`t always
make good breeders.
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Last Edited by on Feb 15, 2007 10:52 AM
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longarm
77 posts
Feb 15, 2007
2:16 PM
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thanks guys that clarifies things abit. I have always tryed to keep the youngsters in 15 to 20 bird kits and add birds to the ateam box as the earn it. mabey I will try pareing a kit down rather than building it up. c.j
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BEN the bird man
2 posts
Feb 15, 2007
4:23 PM
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the most i have ever flown is 10 cause i belive you can focus on thoes birds and get them the way you want them im still trying to get my birds flying the way i want them to so i think its really up to you use your best judgment
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George Ruiz
188 posts
Feb 16, 2007
8:51 PM
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I like to fly the squeks in big Mobs.
Sort of like teaching a full class, if I only have 10 or so I will uasually do a rush job on them but a full class is fun and I take my time.
George
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