tapp
106 posts
Jul 22, 2006
9:17 PM
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Shaun, Were have you been? hope all is well. How are the masons doing? My E-Mail is kctapp1@netzero.com
Tapp
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nicksiders
725 posts
Jul 22, 2006
10:18 PM
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I haven't seen him in here for a long time. Does anyone know why? Is he alright?
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Snicker Rollers
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Shaun
367 posts
Jul 23, 2006
5:46 AM
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Hello, guys. I'm still around. It's true to say that some time back there were a few newcomers to this list who were sucking the enjoyment out of it for me. I had to let it go for a while and just peer in from time to time.
As for my Masons, the first kit was diabolical and I disposed of most of them. I received a variety of advice from elsewhere, but nothing worked - those youngsters just didn't want to fly. One would land and the rest would follow. Of course, being young birds I had to be as lenient as I could, only removing the really bad ones to begin with. However, after a number of weeks with no progress, I decided to cut my losses and start again. By this time, I had plenty more squeakers coming through, so it wasn't as hard as I thought it would be getting rid of the first lot.
I now have a kit of Masons flying and they're an awful lot better, though I still have the perennial problem of low flying. That's something I have to work on and it will be a challenge.... What am I saying, it's all a bloody challenge!
Cheers.
Shaun
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Velo99
559 posts
Jul 23, 2006
5:59 AM
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Shaun,
Hey buddy,how ya been good to see ya and all. Ay Wot!Wot Ay!
Good to see you got a handle on the Masons. I too have been wondering just where you were.You have some nice insights and quips.
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If they don`t kit,they don`t score.
Color don`t roll and peds don`t fly.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
V99
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tapp
108 posts
Jul 23, 2006
6:57 AM
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Glad to here from you Shaun. You had me thinking you'd gone and bellied up! keep us updated on your adventures!Your friend in the sport.
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Tapp
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nicksiders
727 posts
Jul 24, 2006
10:23 AM
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Don't stay away for so long next time. Have you ever watched Handy's birds fly? I heard Mason's fly low no matter what you feed them, so if your trying to get them up higher you may have alot of frustration.
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Snicker Rollers
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Ballrollers
405 posts
Jul 24, 2006
12:21 PM
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Shaun,
Funny...I was just thinking about you last week and wondering why you had been so scarce. It's good to hear that everything is allright, and that you have a kit in the air. Tough break on that first one. I've got one, too, that I'm getting fed up with flying in fast circles. I don't know which is worse!! LOL! Good to have you back. YITS,Cliff
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Shaun
368 posts
Jul 24, 2006
1:06 PM
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Hi, Cliff and Nick, I do watch your posts - you're nice guys.
I discuss things with Pete Handy often. He's very much into experimentation, never settling too long with any one particular family/strain. He also admits to being pretty useless with young birds and finds them a pain. Tell me! He lives a long way from me, so I've not seen his birds, but he's very honest about his own birds' pros and cons, so I do get very useful advice from him. In fact one of the first pieces of advice he gave me about young birds flying in circles, was to the effect that it's what they do - and why he doesn't much like them! Apparently, they'll grow up and stop doing it. I bloody hope so!
The Masons are most definitely a low-flying strain and feed experimentation has yet to make a blind bit of difference - well, for me anyway.
It's funny that the likes of Ivan Hanchett tell me I should thank my lucky stars, because so many guys have the opposite problem, with birds disappearing out of sight. I just get frustrated that a so-called flying breed seems so reluctant to just get right up there. I know there's been a discussion here recently about whether or not certain families are more difficult to work with. Well, from my brief experience, there has to be something easier than this strain I have. Or, maybe I'm just a crap handler!
Cheers.
Shaun
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Ally Mac
97 posts
Jul 24, 2006
3:31 PM
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Hi Shaun.
Like you I have been watching from the side lines lately. Been busy with work so unfortunately birds have taken a back seat lately but I still fly them as often as possible.
Would I be right in saying that Georges birds do have a reputation for being rather hard to handle.
When I was speaking with Graham he said Daves birds would be great for me as they are the opposite. Easy to feed and easy to fly. Daves advice was infact just feed them what they want after they fly and that is about it. i dont doubt there is a bit more to it than that, infact now my youngsters are getting a bit older their food is rationed but so far they have been a relatively easy to manage.
Have you done anything with your birds from Dave yet?
Hope alls well.
Nice to see a lot of new names on the list, any more from the UK?
Al.
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Velo99
563 posts
Jul 24, 2006
4:05 PM
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Hey Allie
Good to see you.
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If they don`t kit,they don`t score.
Color don`t roll and peds don`t fly.
It`s a comp thing,understand?
V99
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Ballrollers
415 posts
Jul 24, 2006
5:02 PM
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Ditto, Allie. You've been pretty scarce around here, too! You must be raising and training lots of great rollers, I'm sure.
YITS, Cliff
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nicksiders
728 posts
Jul 24, 2006
5:56 PM
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Ally Mac! Really good to see your name in here.
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Snicker Rollers
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Shaun
369 posts
Jul 24, 2006
11:40 PM
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Hi, Al - long time no see and nice to hear from you. How many of Dave's are you actually now flying?
Graham did drop guarded hints to the effect that George's birds weren't the easiest to handle. However, it was in the context of various negatives about all main flyers' birds, including his own.
Personally, I think any beginner with Mason birds, really has his work cut out. They just don't respond in the way you would expect or desire. But, much of this is, no doubt, down to my inexperience with them.
I think you're also right about the feed thing. Dave is an 'any food, so long as it's wheat' kind of bloke. George, on the other hand, is a great experimenter with different types of feed - anything to give him the slightest edge over others. As a beginner, I found a lot of his feed advice went over my head; it was just too compliated. However, he was adamant that I should feed the kit birds a good depurative. It took me a while to find out what that was, but I have it now and I'm giving it a prolonged trial, instead of the usual wheat and milo, to see what happens. Depurative seems to have a bit too much barley to me - but what do I know?
Anyway, I'm just hoping I have the tenacity to stick with the Masons - and to come out the other side with some great rollers.
Mind you, I'm a bit puzzled about what Graham said about Dave's birds being easy to handle, because last year when Dave had an established breeding pair which were in the World Cup Fly auction (and went to Ireland for $510), Graham said he didn't really think I was ready to handle Dave's birds yet, but if my pockets were deep enough, then go for it.
Because I've only got 4 of Dave's birds, it's difficult to tell how good a lot of them together would be. However, I ended up with two pairs from the 4 birds, so as I write, they're on eggs right now and two squabs are already under a pair of fosters. So, in effect I'm doing what I didn't intend to do, as I had felt the Masons would be enough for me. However, I do recall Scott mentioning to me last year, that he knows of guys who haven't prospered with Mason birds and have switched to another strain, so that's always been at the back of my mind.
It's going to be an interesting few months ahead.
Cheers.
Shaun
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Ally Mac
98 posts
Jul 25, 2006
2:48 PM
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I have 30 odd Moseley youngsters now. A pal in Ardrossan gave up his birds and passed them on to me. There were 6 Moseley and 3 iain Birkett birds. I am breeding from the Moseley and flying the Birketts with an old bird kit of various strains I accumulated before getting Dave's birds.
Some of Dave's are starting to look good though one is a roll down. I tried everything but cant get it to stay up, it has knocked itself about pretty bad. The problem I have had is getting the birds in a regular routine, I have been busy and have also been working away quite a lot so the youngsters have suffered.
I will be keen to here how you get on with your Moseley youngsters. Be very careful when weaning, I think I mentioned to you before the problems I had. I found I had to leave them longer than normal with their parents. I am also feeding chicken layers pellets which seem to be giving me stronger youngsters.
Cheers.
Al.
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J_Star
542 posts
Jul 26, 2006
7:22 AM
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Shaun, I thought you were most likely in France vacationing as you always have but wasn't sure in the summer!! Didn’t know that you were protesting because some of the new posters behavior. We can not determine who's who when they sign up but after some few posts and they demonstrate with no doubts that they are not going to change their attitude then their logon privileges is history.
Remember that you don't have to respond to every thread posted but stay in touch with your favorite posters. Certain individuals here at this site are certainly missed when they stay away and out of touch too long. Peak in from time to time. Thanks.
Jay
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Ste
1 post
Jul 31, 2006
9:56 AM
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I fly georges birds and mine dont fly low they even pin out some days,
Shaun i tink you made a mistake killing the kit that wouldnt fly i had a young team like that in 2003 so i locked them up and got on with the next round of young then when i had time i started flyin the lazy kit again and they came good.
As for the moseley birds invest in a hard hat your gunna get a number of roll downs.
Ste
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Ally Mac
102 posts
Jul 31, 2006
1:02 PM
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Shaun.
Can you email me again, I had to wipe the hard disc and have lost everything, sorry Al.
Ste.
I have around 35 Moseley youngsters, 20 of which were bred directly form Daves current old bird kit. So far I have had only one roll down, they seem to be very stable birds and relativley easy to handle. I have just got to sort out where my breeders are for next year.
Al.
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Shaun
370 posts
Aug 01, 2006
12:59 AM
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Al, I've emailed you again.
Ste. I have heard other people mention seeing Mason birds fly higher. However, I've heard far more people say their natural tendency is to fly low, and that's certainly my experience. I'll see how I go with them, now I have a young bird kit of 20 odd birds flying. I have no regrets at all about those I culled, as I just didn't have the time or patience to persevere with them, especially as I had loads more youngsters just about ready to fly.
As for Moseley birds, I've only flown four this past year, but I've not seen any of them looking like a rolldown.
Shaun
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steve
17 posts
Aug 02, 2006
1:47 PM
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hi ste so you know all about dishcloths do you if i was you i wouldnt be knocking daves birds on here.dave is a hell of a roller fancier who doesnt fail to produce good rollers so if you dont mind please keep your dishcloths stories to yourself
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Ally Mac
103 posts
Aug 02, 2006
2:35 PM
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I would go along with that, he was also extremely generous helping me out.
Steve.
Is it Steve Shivers? how are you getting on with daves birds?, you must have a fair few by now.
Al.
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steve
18 posts
Aug 03, 2006
3:10 PM
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hi i have 2 kits of birds going really well at moment in fact i was 2nd in one of our flys in july and it was my 1st fly i have flew this year.we had graham dexter over judging it another great flyer.and guess what out of all the birds i have bred out of daves NOT A ROLL DOWN OR A DISH CLOTH maybe it could be to do with flying the birds the correct way?????????
steve
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1671
2 posts
Aug 03, 2006
10:51 PM
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Hi Shaun
Dont you please send me your e-mail adress,
I would like to talk to you in private about
the mason birds if you dont mind.
Thanks
Your Friend in the Sport
Riaan
riaannaude@gmail.com
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