Ceds
8 posts
Sep 20, 2005
4:18 AM
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Hi Guys
I've let to believe that the Mason birds are the best birds in terms of working together as a team. My gutt tells me that there is much more to it then just this one specific strain.
What role does the management off your birds plays in this regard.
With all due respect to George Mason, If his birds were the best in this regard then surely he should have been in the top ten in the world. I know that there are other aspects and qualities that's been looked at in compititions but I strongly believe that if your birds can work together then you have already win 30 % off your 'race'.
What is you guys feeling on this.
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siddiqir
38 posts
Sep 20, 2005
7:50 AM
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Hello Ceds, I fly Rick Mee stain and these birds kit really tight. I think for competition kit should give number 1 priority. These birds are bred to work and fly together.
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
148 posts
Sep 20, 2005
2:04 PM
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Ceds, working together is a term used to describe their performance, meaning they "break" together in unison, not once, but over and over again. This is teamwork and having a group of birds that have the natural ability to seemingly be linked to one another and ultimately break in big groups is one of the most important keys to being successful in competition. But it is up to the owner to manage them and set them up properly to take full advantage of this trait.
Brian.
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Ballrollers
76 posts
Sep 20, 2005
3:03 PM
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Brian, Could you expand a little on, "It is up to the owner to manage them and set them up properly to take full advantage of this trait." ? What specific management tools do we have at our disposal that affects the genetic tendency to break simultaneously? Or were you speaking generally about good health, proper feed regimen, etc.? YITS
Cliff
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MCCORMICKLOFTS
150 posts
Sep 20, 2005
4:07 PM
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Hey Cliff. What I mean is that though a person might have a family that has proven to have the characteristics to work together in performance, that doesn't mean every individual flyer that possesses those birds will be able to get the same performance from them. Just because the birds have the genetic make up that seems to allow them to perform in unison frequently, doesn't mean they will do it all of the time, nor show their full potential. It is up to the manager to understand the peak and fall of the conditioning sequence and know at what point in their conditioning they will work best. Health plays a major role in it for sure, as does feed, stimulants, environment, psychological manipulations, etc.
It is somewhat like a race car team. Just because a team has all of the right equipment doesn't mean they will be the fastest, or even fast at all. The team manager (crew chief) has to put the parts together and understand how to manipulate the set up and equipment for optimum results.
Brian.
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motherlodelofts
281 posts
Sep 20, 2005
8:34 PM
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It is in the breeding,the selection of the right birds in the kit (birds with to much roll do more harm than good) and the time needed for the team to become a team.
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rollerpigeon
Site Moderator
357 posts
Sep 20, 2005
8:41 PM
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Ceds, I humbly propose that no one strain is the best at anything. There are many quality roller family’s out there that will “do it right”. The difference is with the person managing the entire process all the way from selecting the right family in the beginning to breeding, training, culling and selecting breeders to maintain and/or improve on each trait or characteristic that you have observed over many months to several years.
Forget about family names, just look for rollers that have the proper roll, velocity, and control. Select the best cock and hen to be your foundation pair and develop them into your “own” family demonstrating the traits you desire.
I think it is quite an accomplishment when a breeder has, over several generations either maintained or improved on the traits that are recognized as contributing to a quality roller family.
A “family” of properly bred (selected) and trained rollers will demonstrate “concert” performance as you are referring to.
Rick Mee has an article on this subject somewhere. Who knows the link??
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FLY ON! Tony Chavarria
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tapp
20 posts
Sep 20, 2005
9:14 PM
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Concert performance by Rick Mee
http;//www.com/rickmee/articles/concertperformace.htm
Tapp
Last Edited by tapp on Sep 20, 2005 9:15 PM
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