Windjammer Loft
1138 posts
Sep 12, 2010
5:34 AM
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Iam already thinking about "next" years breeding season. Do I need to "remodel" or not??... I have a question to present to everyone. Since I had such a problem this year. I was wondering if your breeding pens are "open", meaning haveing alot of light in them or are they on the "darker" side, giving them some privacy?? All my breeding pens are wide open to light, with no privacy for the birds. I was wondering if that could be MY "problem"???
Please give me your take on the "Privacy or Light" issue. I need all the help I can get for next year.. I would appreaciate any photos of your breeding pens..
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
2022 posts
Sep 12, 2010
5:51 AM
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Hey Paul, I use the Crown Breeding cage system for my breeders and an open loft system for their foster pairs. It does not matter that the fosters are open lofted because their is zero chance I will allow them to raise any of their own.
Here is an example of one unit, it is divided in two sections that will hold two nest bowls. The fronts are made of wood framing and welded wire with slide in doors. The bottom is made from plastic coated wire shelving 12" wide and 48" long. Notice the clips holding the wire bottom in place it swings down for total access for cleaning. I can remove the whole compartment for storage in about five minutes. I have my breeders and fosters in light 12 to 14 hours a day.
Take care my friend
Thom
Last Edited by on Sep 12, 2010 6:27 AM
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katyroller
766 posts
Sep 12, 2010
6:37 AM
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I have a completely open breeding loft so my breeders get alot of sunshine. I have not had any problems with this setup and I feel the birds are happier and healthier. My breeding boxes are 24" deep, so the birds do get shade while sitting on the nest.
Tracey
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Pinwheel
246 posts
Sep 12, 2010
7:51 AM
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Id say its better to give them more light then dark. Not sure if dark and privacy really go together. Seclusion/privacy might work better if you fear they are getting bothered by some stimulus.
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donnie james
1164 posts
Sep 12, 2010
2:21 PM
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hay paul ,
in the pass before i moved i had lights in the breeding and fly pen and they seem to do good with the lights on 12 hours a day and the seem to do well with the lights
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Sound Rollers
404 posts
Sep 12, 2010
3:00 PM
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Paul - I think pigeons like dark spaces for breeding, just based on my observation of wild pigeons, I find them under Bridges /overpasses in attics of abandon houses, you name it, it's dark.
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steve49
574 posts
Sep 12, 2010
4:18 PM
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Thom, what is under your breeding cages?
John, i think the wild pigeons are only nesting under bridges because it affords them protection from the elements. the fact its dark is not a real factor, only a coincidence. many small songbirds breed in tree hollows, and their babies have irredescent dots on each side of their gaping mouths to steer the parents to their throats with food.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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Oldfart
GOLD MEMBER
2024 posts
Sep 12, 2010
6:05 PM
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Hey Steve, I use sand on the floor and if I have more then one layer of cages the upper cage has a tray lined with newspaper which I change everyday.
Take care my friend
Thom
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fresnobirdman
706 posts
Sep 12, 2010
6:25 PM
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you gotta let them have their vitamin D...
-fou
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wishiwon2
360 posts
Sep 12, 2010
8:11 PM
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Where your breeders are housed needs to have access to direct sunlight and wil be healthiest if it is open and airy. Where the nests are needs some security or partially hidden. The cock needs to be able to defend it easily and the hen needs to feel private and safe. No need for sunlight on the nest.
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Jon
If it were easy, everybody would do it
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wishiwon2
361 posts
Sep 12, 2010
8:11 PM
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Where your breeders are housed needs to have access to direct sunlight and wil be healthiest if it is open and airy. Where the nests are needs some security or partially hidden. The cock needs to be able to defend it easily and the hen needs to feel private and safe. No need for sunlight on the nest.
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Jon
If it were easy, everybody would do it
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Scott
3140 posts
Sep 12, 2010
9:37 PM
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I put in 3 new individules this year that are a tad too dark in Winter .. ended up with some leg problems on a couple of youngsters due to lack of Vit. D .. just a thought.
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Scott Campbell
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JDA
GOLD MEMBER
973 posts
Sep 12, 2010
10:11 PM
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The morning sun is important for a breeding cage, so facing east works well.
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Windjammer Loft
1139 posts
Sep 13, 2010
6:39 AM
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Thanks everyone for your input. I do have plenty of light, natural ans aritficial. My main question was privacy in the nestbowl area. I got it figured out though.
Fly High and Roll On
Paul
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