rtwilliams
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684 posts
Aug 22, 2010
9:18 PM
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I have been busy the last few weeks, and was unablee to get a few just weaned birds up like I needed to. So I made a rash decision and tried something new. I had them trap trained but they were not flying yet. With this being the case I open the trap and just let them come and go as they please for the last couple days(3 total, one more than I had planned).
They have developed well and flying well. I flew the old birds and hoped they would trap yesterday with them, and thye did not. so it wa a little frustrating. But I had food and water in the kit and they were obviuosly using. I left them with out water today and they were in the kit at noon. They got a drink and food for being where they were supposed to be.
I am impressed at the flyig ablities they have acguired in a few days of being free. Has anyone done this, especially to get young birds up and flying? I hope they have not acguired the bad habit of not traping, but i can fix that with a feed can. Going to the ground is also a concern?
Curious if any has done this before. What the pros and cons are?
Thanks in advance.
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RT Williams
Brink of Rolling Loft
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donnie james
1135 posts
Aug 23, 2010
8:10 PM
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hay randy ,
it sounds like you pulled it off by doing what you did and your right the feed can "DOES" play a role in flying just keep on what you been doing and they well come in the spin later on..............
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Donny James
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J_Star
2315 posts
Aug 24, 2010
5:05 AM
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Yes. I usualy let the young birds out in the morning and let them out all day until evening. That way they fly and rest as they please for the first few days. After that, the fun is over for them.
Jay
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JDA
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959 posts
Aug 24, 2010
6:20 AM
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RT... Going to the ground would not be a problem with young birds if they were feed can and trap trained using a cage over the closed traps.I put youngsters through my traps into a removable cage.close the traps to keep them out there and they get use to the surroundings.I leave them out there for a few hours hungry.Before they are let loose they must be feed can and trap trained.Open your traps and shake the feed can and let them come in by there self.Do that for a few days and then take the cage down, put them through the traps and let them explore on the landing board.Shake feed can and feed them in.JDA
Last Edited by on Aug 24, 2010 6:21 AM
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Rick Mee
49 posts
Aug 24, 2010
8:24 PM
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RT, recently I had a kit of young birds that just did not want to go in, they just loved being out. So, I just would not feed them until later in the day when they were all hovering around the kit box waiting for me to let them in. I found that they learned to kit earlier, acted as a kit earlier, and if I flew them again in the evening they flew every so slowly, almost like butterflies. The BOPs have finally showed up so I have them under control now, but man it sure is worth trying. I am not advocating letting them come and go as they please from the kit box. What I did was let them out, after they landed I would just leave the kit box door open so they could go in for a drink, then I would feed them around noon, then fly them again in the evening. Obviously they were not going to trap at 7 AM the next morning when they were flown again because they were fed at 1200, but there were benefits from leaving them to their own free will as I mentioned above.
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rtwilliams
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686 posts
Aug 24, 2010
9:23 PM
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Sounds like a few have had good experiences just letting them fly and grow up. I ussually use my cage and let them sit on top while the other kits fly and trap. I then trap them. Once they learn the program I let them sit on kit box for 30 minutes, they can fly or what ever, and then call them.
However this time I put food in the kit and left. When I got back it was dark and they were on my house not in the kit. When I tried to get them in the next morning they looked at me funny, and laughed. so I let them stay out agian, with food adn water in the kit. They flew all over the place during the day, but I was not around when they got food and a drink in the kit box, so they stayed out another day.
They have really matured quickly in their flying ablities. I think I will use this more. Obviusly not letting them stay out for 3 days, but a few hours I am begining to think is good for young, just learning to fly rollers. I live real close to work so I could leave them out in the morning and trap them at lunch.
I think this may be better than walking down the road and letting them out. That always takes a few trips for the few birds that are not flying well. even then those birds tend to always land early. maybe free flying would help them better. As long as the BOP stays away.
thanks for the responses.
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RT Williams
Brink of Rolling Loft
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bigbull
60 posts
Aug 26, 2010
4:46 PM
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RT,I have 12 birds which is the last of my breeding season,2010.I also have let these birds out on there own.for two weeks these birds have been flying and trapping in fast looking for feed & water. I let them all eat then pull water after they eat.the following day they trap in like five seconds,maybe eight 8 seconds. bigbull flying solo in south los angeles.brick red lofts
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