polarbear
112 posts
Jun 19, 2010
10:23 PM
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I have a few question about breeders.
(1) How many young from a pair should you raise to get a good idea on what there capable of raising as far as performance in there offspring?
(2) If the pairs dont produce good quality kit birds, would you change there mates in the future? Or do they have to raise what you are after with there mate you chose for them the first time?
These are just a few thoughts I had been thinking of today, and was curious what others have experienced.
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shukz
102 posts
Jun 20, 2010
5:33 AM
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Hey Polar i would say about no less then 8 young birds,i have been breeding with 1 pair,and out of 10,the last 6 bred are better perfomers then the 1st 4 that was bred,and yes if they dont produce birds that you are happy with then change there mates.
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JMUrbon
1052 posts
Jun 20, 2010
9:54 AM
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As Shukz said I like to go 8-10 young from a pair. If they dont reproduce themselves or better it is not a suceccful pairing in my opinion. Switch them around and then put them back in the air if they dont work out the way you would like them to. Joe
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George R.
355 posts
Jun 20, 2010
10:59 AM
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Polarbear
I think about six young is what a person needs to make a fair evaluation.
Also I dont like to shop around for the Right mate , if a Bird dont produce itself or better the first time I breed them , then there butts go back into the Air , and Thats where they will spend the rest of thier lives.
Good Luck
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Leo
Member
146 posts
Jun 20, 2010
11:31 AM
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Geo, If you breed this way, then you have never owned a "click pr"out of your birds,I also have thoughts on what Stan Plona said, you breed all yr to get two good ones..! and Stan owned the best,When you say 6 young I am assuming with three different hens,???..these are just thoughts to think about...Regards LEO
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George R.
357 posts
Jun 20, 2010
2:21 PM
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Leo
I have had a few click pairs but I didnt shop around to find them a Bird that made them click.
Leo Stan Plona ( RIP) has been gone for many years , there are a way higher % of good Birds and good Fanciers in the USA now then when Stan Plona was raising and flying Birds.
If I only got one or two good Birds a year from the Family that I breed and Fly , I would box up the whole lot and take them to the Feed store so someone can use them as Fosters or make Pigeon pot pie out of them.
A very succesfull fancier told me about 4 years ago that a pigeon better breed some good un's the first time it is bred or it will spend the rest of it's life in the kit box. He dont believe in shopping around to find the right mate . This fancier has won many Fly's in one of the most toughest regions ( San Bernardino)
agaist some very stiff competition.
Since I started practicing this method my stock has improved leaps and bounds and I am grateful for the advice that he gave me.
Last Edited by on Jun 20, 2010 2:24 PM
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JMUrbon
1053 posts
Jun 20, 2010
4:19 PM
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Good Advice George. I disagree with you on not giving a bird 2 years in the stock loft to prove itself but if it is working for you that is all that matters. I have watched your progress over the last few years and I believe it is working for you. Joe
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George R.
358 posts
Jun 20, 2010
7:37 PM
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Thanks Joe
I forgot to add that what works for me may not work for someone else . everyone needs to make thier decisions based on thier stock and thier personal preference's.
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