fresnobirdman
668 posts
May 17, 2010
9:34 PM
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1. who is the best of the best that everyone can agree on?
if there are multiple people please list them.
2. who is the best in game that is based on opinions and not flier points?
-please not rude remarks.
-fou
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Alohazona
709 posts
May 18, 2010
12:29 AM
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I've always liked and respected Ivan Hanchett,Rick Schoening,Rich Hayes,solid rollermen ...Aloha,Todd
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Bill C
529 posts
May 18, 2010
11:14 AM
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The problem with everyone having the ideal as best will not work simply because the majority of us have not seen the top birds in the country fly.
We all have our favorites in our local areas and where a guy has judged but only those who have judged the W/C and Fall fly have seen some of the best and even then only those who happen to make it in the finals that paticular year.
I think most guys have the birds from the ones they see as best in their area or outside their area, and even then it changes with some guys who always wants birds from who ever is doing well that year.
There is a lack of knowlege on what it takes to have a real good stock of breeders and most think they can just go buy a few birds and the next year they expect too much too soon and want to change birds. Sorry for getting side tracked on your topic. I like Borges and Kiser birds best. Many top flyers have started with these birds as well as KGB. I have not seen Kennys birds fly but trust the guys who have them flying as real good birds, plus he has a good record behind him. BIll C
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donnie james
1012 posts
May 18, 2010
1:40 PM
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hay fou,
everyone has their own ideas who the best and very few can agree on this subject................
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Donny James
"Fly The Best And Cull The Rest"
"Saying One Thing;Doing Its Another"
"Keep Your Head Planted In The Sky And Wings Spanned Wide"
1996 Piedmont Roller Club Lifetime Achievement Recipient
Portsmouth Roller Club Participation Award System Recipient 1994 '96 '97 And 2000
2001 Limestone,Ohio Sportsman's Club Lifetime Member Recipient
2002Portsmouth Roller Club Certified Judge
2004Portsmouth Roller Club Lifetime Member Recipient
"Miss Portsmouth"NBRC/90/J311 Rusty Dun Check Self Hen First Bird To Get Certified In Portsmouth Roller Club History With A Score Of 53 Judge By Joe Roe The 1993 World Cup Winner And John Bender The 1994 World Cup Winner
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steve49
507 posts
May 18, 2010
2:05 PM
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i think Bill C hit the nail on the head about seeing the best kits.
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Steve in Blue Point, NY
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kcfirl
640 posts
May 18, 2010
7:36 PM
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the best 2 alive today are Heine Bijker and Don Oullette. That is based on their comp record and my viewing of their kits.
Regards,
Ken Firl
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fresnobirdman
669 posts
May 18, 2010
10:26 PM
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bill c, and donny james.
i know that that is true,
i thought that there is someone that everyone can agree on.
sorry for taking some thread space on this site.
-fou
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wannaroll
196 posts
May 19, 2010
8:02 AM
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You will never get everyone to agree that's for sure. I think you would have to add Abel Ibarra to that list, along with Richard Apodaca. Richard has forgot more about pigeons than most of us will ever know. LOL
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Dave - Hesperia, CA.
(San Bernardino Mountain Spinners)
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johnjay
67 posts
May 19, 2010
4:06 PM
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found this on the tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nFUaQBJIMA
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I am never oppressed by the narrow confines of my existence.
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