George R.
329 posts
Mar 27, 2010
8:12 AM
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What strains or family's of roller Pigeons tend to fly High and stiff ?
what should a person do to remedy this condition?
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Scott
2954 posts
Mar 27, 2010
8:23 AM
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Strains or families ? does it matter ? .. they are a non issue.
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Scott Campbell
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George R.
331 posts
Mar 27, 2010
12:03 PM
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Scott
do you have lots of expeirence with high flying stiff Family's ??
If you do maybe you can share what are the things you do to remedy this HUGE fault...
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Scott
2955 posts
Mar 27, 2010
3:23 PM
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Yea George my birds are a pain once they mature especially in the Spring when I have a lot of lift here.. Fall and Summer they are much easier to handle... they have never had a reputation of being stiffs though ...although they are a stable family . Not sure where you want to go with this but we could compare fly records if you like.
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Scott Campbell
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Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2010 3:53 PM
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Dave Szab
18 posts
Mar 27, 2010
3:54 PM
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Scott's birds don't fly that high, just because I saw them out the window when I was flying into Sacramento last year for the convention, that doesn't mean anything, they were working their butts off up there.
Dave
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George R.
333 posts
Mar 27, 2010
3:58 PM
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Scott
What are some methods that help deal with Birds that tend to Fly High and strong ?
And as far as comparing Fly Records They are like comparing Race Horse past performances , ever hear that saying " what have you done lately". I will be the first to say I aint Done nothing in a long Time I last Qualified for the World Cup in 2008 and the Fall fly in 2006.
To bad we live so far away or I would be more then willing to have a friendly Flyoff against you to let the Rubber meet the road as you always say LOL.
As far as this tread it is to educate the Flyers who are expierencing this problem with High Flying.
I got a call from a fella asking me how to deal with High Flying Birds and he didnt like it when I told him to start think about getting a Family of birds that is easier for him to Fly.
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Scott
2956 posts
Mar 27, 2010
5:22 PM
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George.. I honestly don't care about when or how many times I or anyone else have qualified for a major fly.. qualifing means nothing .. more important is what you did after you qualied in the finals.. that is where the rubber meats the road buddy.
As for the last time I did anything my record is open for all to see on the NBRC website on the Master Flyer page.
You say in 2008 you qualified in the W.C. ..where did you end up in the finals ?
(And as far as comparing Fly Records They are like comparing Race Horse past performances , ever hear that saying " what have you done lately". I will be the first to say I aint Done nothing in a long Time I last Qualified for the World Cup in 2008 and the Fall fly in 2006.)
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Scott Campbell
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Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2010 5:27 PM
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Scott
2957 posts
Mar 27, 2010
5:33 PM
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It is hard to say George .. either low flying or high flying birds are a double edged sword .. high flying for the obvious reasons and low flying because it can be hard many times to get them to lift to work and roll properly.
Honestly though.. most of the so called easy to handle families aren'tworth the feed has been my experiance .. other wise we would all be flying such birds.
(I got a call from a fella asking me how to deal with High Flying Birds and he didnt like it when I told him to start think about getting a Family of birds that is easier for him to Fly.)
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Scott Campbell
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Last Edited by on Mar 27, 2010 5:38 PM
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pigeon pete
529 posts
Mar 27, 2010
5:58 PM
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George,
we do have families that are more prone to high flying than others, especially as old birds, they can get worse each year. Location has a lot to do with it but some strains never seem to have the problem.
With the real high flyers you wouldn't know if they were stiff or not cause they fly outta sight.
If this guys have GONE stiff and have STARTED flying high it is a management problem.
I don;t know his birds; but with mine it's a sign that they are feeling too good, too fit and lean, and have too much fuel in their bellies.
I would start by getting the flying time right down by gradually reducing the food intake.
At the same time I would reduce the amount of releases. If he's flying every day cut back to 2-3 times a week. Reducing their flying regularity will mean keeping a tighter watch on the feedcan as they don't need the same energy for resting.
Once they are flying in the 20-30 minute region for a few flys, they may come right.
Gauging how often to fly and what to feed from here on,is not easy to say without watching the kit yourself, but he could try feeding peas instead of wheat (or whatever he is feeding now) for some feeds.
With mine I would feed peas the day they flew, then back to wheat the next day if I was flying alternate days.
He now needs to keep some weight on them, but keep the fly time down to around 40 minutes or under.
I find that lean fit pigeons will lift, but not so much if they are a touch heavier, and a touch hungrier.
Pete
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Scott
2958 posts
Mar 27, 2010
6:10 PM
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Good post Pete.. but I'm not sure that is the reason for this thread.
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Scott Campbell
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George R.
334 posts
Mar 27, 2010
7:04 PM
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Pete Thanks thats some damm good info scott yes low flying Birds are also a problem . Low flying prevents Birds from really showing thier Best.
Scott I finished Last in the 2008 World Cup. but that was in 2008 the kits I have now would blow the doors off that kit.
maybe we will both qualify this year for the World Cup , I hope so.
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pigeon pete
530 posts
Mar 28, 2010
3:26 AM
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Oh dear Scott,
Do you think it's not about rollers at all?
Is it some sort of communist plot to get information out of us? did I say too much? lol
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2010 3:28 AM
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michael salus
175 posts
Mar 28, 2010
6:02 AM
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Good post Pete. I have a friend that has birds flying high and long at this time and we came to the same conclusion. They aren't stiff though... just high and long time flying. Scott, George just asked a question if you didn't want to answer it then don't. Good morning... Peace!!
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MJ
Last Edited by on Mar 28, 2010 6:31 AM
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Scott
2960 posts
Mar 28, 2010
6:33 AM
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Pete I find that this is the key along with fast digesting feed.
As for the other thing .. you gotta know George LOL
(He now needs to keep some weight on them, but keep the fly time down to around 40 minutes or under.
I find that lean fit pigeons will lift, but not so much if they are a touch heavier, and a touch hungrier.)
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Scott Campbell
" God Bless "
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